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Re: color of VanDyke/Longevity?

Bob,
Where would I find the recipe for the borax toner? What effects does it
have on the print? Any other tips for using it?
Thanks
Gwen Walstrand





>Sam,
>
>The toner I use for VDB is the borax toner.
>I always fix first and wash, then tone.
>
>Sam you shouldn't go around calling people names like "chemist." ;-)
>
>My degrees are in physics. As one of my former students said, " Chemistry is
>one of the wet sciences. Physics is a dry science."
>
>So there you go.
>
>Bob
>
>
>
>
>>From: Sam Wang <stwang@mindspring.com>
>>Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>>To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>>Subject: Re: color of VanDyke/Longevity?
>>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:41:15 -0400
>>
>>At 8:38 PM -0400 6/29/00, Robert W. Schramm wrote:
>>>I have been regularly gold toning VDB with the formula in Keepers
>>>of Light for salt prints. It does indeed darken the image slightly
>>>i.e. to a darker brown. I have never experienced any bleaching.
>>>Aside to Judy: "Fishheads" was gold toned.
>>
>>Bob,
>>
>>Do you tone before or after fixing? I've only toned before fixing,
>>and found it interesting that Sil said you should tone Vandykes only
>>after fixing.
>>
>>The best result I got, a rich maroon color, was from toning with well
>>used Nelson's Gold Toner. Fresh Nelson's bleaches easily because the
>>hypo is too strong. The hypo in the toning solution is important to
>>get dark tones, since without it the silver would be coated by a
>>layer of gold before getting fixed, and get a lighter, though
>>beautiful, bluish tone.
>>
>>It's just my speculation. As a chemist, Bob, please tell me if I am
>>full of it, or does it make any sense.
>>
>>BTW, it was nearly impossible for me to get another print with the
>>same rich maroon colors, even after repeated tries. There are just
>>too many variables.
>>
>>Sam Wang
>>
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>Check out my web page at:
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>  http://www.SchrammStudio.com
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>also look at:
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