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Re: color of VanDyke/Longevity?



Sam,

The toner I use for VDB is the borax toner.
I always fix first and wash, then tone.

Sam you shouldn't go around calling people names like "chemist." ;-)

My degrees are in physics. As one of my former students said, " Chemistry is 
one of the wet sciences. Physics is a dry science."

So there you go.

Bob




>From: Sam Wang <stwang@mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>Subject: Re: color of VanDyke/Longevity?
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:41:15 -0400
>
>At 8:38 PM -0400 6/29/00, Robert W. Schramm wrote:
>>I have been regularly gold toning VDB with the formula in Keepers
>>of Light for salt prints. It does indeed darken the image slightly
>>i.e. to a darker brown. I have never experienced any bleaching.
>>Aside to Judy: "Fishheads" was gold toned.
>
>Bob,
>
>Do you tone before or after fixing? I've only toned before fixing,
>and found it interesting that Sil said you should tone Vandykes only
>after fixing.
>
>The best result I got, a rich maroon color, was from toning with well
>used Nelson's Gold Toner. Fresh Nelson's bleaches easily because the
>hypo is too strong. The hypo in the toning solution is important to
>get dark tones, since without it the silver would be coated by a
>layer of gold before getting fixed, and get a lighter, though
>beautiful, bluish tone.
>
>It's just my speculation. As a chemist, Bob, please tell me if I am
>full of it, or does it make any sense.
>
>BTW, it was nearly impossible for me to get another print with the
>same rich maroon colors, even after repeated tries. There are just
>too many variables.
>
>Sam Wang
>


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