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Re: color of VanDyke/Longevity?



Gwen,

Borax gold toner is to be found in "Keepers of Light." Look in
the salted paper print section. If you can't find it, let me know and
I will look it up.

With VDB it makes the brown hue a darker brown.

I fix the VDB first with a mild fixer and wash it and then tone.

Bob


>From: Gwen Walstrand <gwalstra@lib.drury.edu>
>Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>Subject: Re: color of VanDyke/Longevity?
>Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 08:22:14 +0100
>
>Bob,
>Where would I find the recipe for the borax toner? What effects does it
>have on the print? Any other tips for using it?
>Thanks
>Gwen Walstrand
>
>
>
>
>
> >Sam,
> >
> >The toner I use for VDB is the borax toner.
> >I always fix first and wash, then tone.
> >
> >Sam you shouldn't go around calling people names like "chemist." ;-)
> >
> >My degrees are in physics. As one of my former students said, " Chemistry 
>is
> >one of the wet sciences. Physics is a dry science."
> >
> >So there you go.
> >
> >Bob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: Sam Wang <stwang@mindspring.com>
> >>Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> >>To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> >>Subject: Re: color of VanDyke/Longevity?
> >>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:41:15 -0400
> >>
> >>At 8:38 PM -0400 6/29/00, Robert W. Schramm wrote:
> >>>I have been regularly gold toning VDB with the formula in Keepers
> >>>of Light for salt prints. It does indeed darken the image slightly
> >>>i.e. to a darker brown. I have never experienced any bleaching.
> >>>Aside to Judy: "Fishheads" was gold toned.
> >>
> >>Bob,
> >>
> >>Do you tone before or after fixing? I've only toned before fixing,
> >>and found it interesting that Sil said you should tone Vandykes only
> >>after fixing.
> >>
> >>The best result I got, a rich maroon color, was from toning with well
> >>used Nelson's Gold Toner. Fresh Nelson's bleaches easily because the
> >>hypo is too strong. The hypo in the toning solution is important to
> >>get dark tones, since without it the silver would be coated by a
> >>layer of gold before getting fixed, and get a lighter, though
> >>beautiful, bluish tone.
> >>
> >>It's just my speculation. As a chemist, Bob, please tell me if I am
> >>full of it, or does it make any sense.
> >>
> >>BTW, it was nearly impossible for me to get another print with the
> >>same rich maroon colors, even after repeated tries. There are just
> >>too many variables.
> >>
> >>Sam Wang
> >>
> >
> >
> >Check out my web page at:
> >
> >  http://www.SchrammStudio.com
> >
> >also look at:
> >
> >  http://www.wlsc.wvnet.edu/www/pubrel/photo.html
> >
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Check out my web page at:

  http://www.SchrammStudio.com

also look at:

  http://www.wlsc.wvnet.edu/www/pubrel/photo.html

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