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Re: giant photogram Q



Hi list what follows was sent to me BUT should have been sent to Emily Kate
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>I'd suggest using cyanotype, although it won't be black, but it is so much 
>easier to work with. I know someone (Jane Reese) who did large cyanotypes 
>using old photographic background paper for a children's workshop many 
>years ago (which have appeared I think in some of the histories, and I 
>think may be in the collection at George Eastman House.) Her biggest 
>problem was getting the paper she had prepared in USA across into Canada 
>where she was doing the workshop.

>A garden hose is all you need to develop it, and it only takes a few 
>seconds before it is insensitive to light, though you need to wash it 
>longer.

>All photograms are negatives of course, and you could in theory contact 
>print them to give positives, but there are practical difficulties with 
>large photograms in maintaining contact (a sheet of plate glass would be 
>heavy enough to do this) and also because large sheets of paper need to be 
>fairly heavy weight to allow handling, so they need a long exposure.

>If you want your final result to be black and positive you could try 
>making a cyanotype negative and printing this onto a normal photographic 
>paper.

>If you really need a black (or at least dark brown) image you should use 
>the Vandyke (brownprint) process:
>A    90 g ferric ammonium citrate in 330ml water
>B    15 g tartaric acid in 330ml water
>C    38 g silver nitrate in 330ml water

>Dissolve all chemicals, mix A + B well, then add C slowly with constant 
>stirring. Store in brown bottle in dark cupboard.
>Handle with gloves as it stains. 
>Coat the paper away from sun or fluorescent lights - for a large print I'd 
>try using a sponge. Avoid brushes or rollers with metal parts. Hang to dry
>in subdued light or darkness. 
>Expose to get good highlight detail (you will lose some). Coat oversize 
>(or a separate sheet at the same time on the same paper type) so you can 
>trim some for tests to establish correct exposure.

>Develop by water wash - but the washings will stain and are poisonous, so 
>you need more care than with blueprint. 2-5 mins.

>Fixing may not be absolutely necessary, but it does usually darken the 
>print in any case. Use a very dilute plain hypo for a short time - 20 
>grams per litre sodium thiosulphate for a maximum of 5 minutes, then wash 
>for at least half an hour in running water.

>Good luck

>Peter Marshall
>Photography Guide at About          http://photography.about.com/
>email: photography.guide@about.com
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