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Re: bubbles in gelatin/keith/thor

I am going to comment on a few things here.  first of all, i sent comments to 
the list about my statement wtiht he nastiness thing, and they seemed to have 
gotten lost in the mail. i guess in a simialr way, without me noticing, that 
happened with the other people.  i have now hit "reply all" so i wil see what 
happens. however, it is not consistnat becuase my gelatin comments went 
through just fine. 
gelatin first:

In a message dated 10/11/00 5:37:16 PM, dsbryant@worldnet.att.net writes:

<< > In a message dated 10/11/00 1:45:43 AM, msandquist@joshuanet.com writes:

>

> << There are also commercial products known as defoaming agents in the

>

> most generic sense. >>

>

> Yes, there is something called LFN Defoamer that I used to use in

developer

> to stop pinholes with infrared film.  I think it is still avaiable in

camera

> stores.  I think the stuff was original used to cut air bubbles in

processing

> machines, but do not quote me on this.



Did this work successfully with your IR development?

Don Bryant

yes, it did work.  jsut put a few drops in the gallon of stock developer. 
however, i have gotten really good at carefully agitating and i think that 
helps just as well. don, if you want to know how i do it, write to me off 
list and i will send you instructions on what i do.  i have taught this in 
workshops and it seems to work well.

now, to comment again on the thor/keith thing:    this is what i had written 
and as i look back to cut and pasate now, it did go to keith instead of the 
list!
i think the main issue is that these images do not fit at this site, which is 
alternative processes. try some of the "glamour" sites that may understand 
this work. personally, i never did understand this kind of imagery and it 
always amazes me that you can find women that will do it. however, i am an 
infrared photographer and what i usually like about the film is that it can 
be used in a subtle way, so that it may look a little softer and ethereal, 
but it does not hit you in the face.  i do not understand why you are using 
it.  it does not add to the images, in fact the harsh shadows take away from 
the figures.
so, that is a short cirtique without being nasty. however, if keith and thor 
are the same person, that is really sick.
please do not respond to this - opinions do not need to be answered and i 
will not continue with this discussion.
jill