Re: Stain Redux - Pyrocat HD and Tri-X: was Double Dipping

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From: Linas Kudzma (lkudzma@earthlink.net)
Date: 12/31/01-12:04:02 AM Z


Clay,
I really can't answer your question about Tri-X and Pyrocat-HD, however I
can share some very recent results with Pyrocat.

I first tried Bergger's BPF 200 with PMK pyro (trays) and was underwhelmed
to say the least. Such a high overall "fog stain" that contrast for Pd/Pt
printing was terrible. Rollo Pyro was better, but I still was not terribly
pleased with these negatives. In my hands, Rollo Pyro/BPF negatives just
did not have the contrast of Rollo/FP4+ or Rollo/Tri-X.

This weekend I developed a few 8x10 sheets of BPF 200 negs (rated at 100)
in Pyrocat-HD, using the older metol formula, rotary agitation (8 min) and
the 1:2:100 dilution. The result was excellent negatives for Pd/Pt! These
negatives were FAR superior for Pd/Pt to the previous BPF200 pyro negs and
I now consider this film useable. Before, I honestly could not understand
how anyone liked BPF for Pd/Pt. I need to try Pyrocat with Tri-X, because
I absolutely love Pyrocat results with FP4+ and now BPF 200.

Linas

> [Original Message]
> From: clay <wcharmon@wt.net>
> To: <lkudzma@earthlink.net>
> Date: 12/29/2001 8:05:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Stain Redux - Pyrocat HD and Tri-X: was Double Dipping
>
> Anybody on the list had problems using TriX and Pyrocat HD? Pyrocat has

> turned out to be the easiest developer for me to use for getting a nice

> proportional actinic filtering stain on my normal films: TMax 400, FP-4,
and

> HP-5.

>

> Today I was out shooting 7x17 with Tri-X, and was shocked to see a lot of

> fog+stain even in the border areas of the negative. I seem to remember
Sandy

> saying something about a foggy result when he tested the developer on
Tri-X

> as well. Anybody else had experience, good or bad, with this film and

> developer combination?

>

> As an aside, I am really sold on Pyrocat as an inexpensive easy-to-use

> alternative to Rollo. On the first three films I mentioned, I get really

> great results without a lot of fussing. It really tames the hair trigger

> response of TMax 400 nicely. Seems like 10-11 minutes at 75 degrees with

> that film will almost always give me a palladium ready negative.

>

> Any input would be enlightening.

>

> Clay

 


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