From: Ehud Maletz (maletz@netvision.net.il)
Date: 04/08/02-10:28:35 PM Z
a new addition to this forum. i have a question - has anyone attended
christopher james' maine photographic workshop? Is he in this forum too??
oops, slightly embarrassing..i'd appreciate the feedback, the workshops are
costly and i'm curious as to how worthwhile they are beyond the "party "
effect of a week together.
also, regarding photog. and painting, another favorite is Before Photography
by Galassi and Photography and Art, interactions since 1945.
thanks, hannah
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: photography and painting
>
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Farah Mahbub wrote:
>
> > Salaam to everyone
> >
> > This summer I will teaching photography to a small group of fine arts
> > students ... I think it would be interesting for them ..... if I gave
them a
> > lecture on how close photography and painting have been in history ..
would
> > love it if you guys contribute to my info collection that I have been
doing
> > these days . thank you
>
> Having given a series of lectures on that very topic myself (also to fine
> art students, including docents at ICP), I predict that you will be as
> astonished as they will. They will be astonished by the idea, and you will
> be astonished that they are so astonished -- and all will be
> delighted. (Of course that was several years ago, the mix of painting and
> photography not as familiar as today... but I bet they'll STILL be
> astonished.)
>
> Far and away the best book on the topic (and it is WONDERFUL) is Aaron
> Scharf's "Art and Photography," Penguin Press, reprinted pb 1983 & 1986.
> ISBN 0 1400.67736. My comment in the P-F bibliography is, "The original,
> major, & still best reference work about photography's influence on
> painting. An education in itself. Beg, borrow or steal it."
>
> I'll add here that it was widely distributed & in print for some time (if
> not still), so odds are good for finding a copy.
>
> Van Deren Coke had a good book on the topic also about 10 years before
> that. Scharf's was paperback, Coke's was coffee table. But there's one by
> an Englishwoman whose name I forget (something like Marion Warner??)
> that's terrible. No insight, little info, just lists of names.
>
> However, if you can dig up a copy of Aaron Scharf's other book, "Creative
> Photography," Reinhold, 1965 Lib of Congress catalog #65-13370, it is
> delicious, wonderful, collector's item, but long out of print.
>
> (Both references from "Violating the Medium" bibliography, P-F #3. pp 17
> & 18. Did you think I just knew that offhand?)
>
> best,
>
> Judy
>
> Of the >
> > Farah Mahbub
> >
> > Fine Art Photography
> > 40/2 ,6th Commercial St, D.H.A Phase :4
> > Karachi - 75500 - PAKISTAN
> > # (9221) 5888412
> > http://www.farahmahbub.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alejandro Lopez de Haro" <alhr@wanadoo.fr>
> > To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: Jed Perl / was Sandy's kallitype method; good and bad
> > photography
> >
> >
> >
> > Not only was occasionally but more often as one can imagine. Just to
give
> > you an example, Cézanne's self-portrait of 1861 was painted directly
from a
> > photograph.
> >
> > Degas, along with Delacroix, are perhaps the greatest exponents of the
use
> > of photography for paintings. As an example, Degas' self-portrait:
"Degas
> > saluant" circa 1862 was painted from a photograph; also his: "Portrait
of
> > the princess de Metternich".
> >
> > Courbet's "Les Baigneuses" and "La femme au perroquet", both were from a
> > photograph. The former from an unknown photograph and the latter from
> > Villeneuve. Also his painting "Le château de Chillon" was painted from a
> > photograph of Adolfe Braun. And his "Seascape" was from painted from a
> > photograph of one of the most outstanding photographer of the XIX
century:
> > Gustave Le Gray's "Sky and Sea".
> >
> > We don't even have to go that far in time, even one of the most
influential
> > movement in painting: Cubism came from photography.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alejandro López de Haro
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <ARTHURWG@aol.com>
> > To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: Jed Perl / was Sandy's kallitype method; good and bad
> > photography
> >
> >
> > > I note that even Paul Cezanne was known to work occasionally from
> > > photographs. Arthur
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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