From: Farah Mahbub (fmahbub@cyber.net.pk)
Date: 12/14/02-05:22:02 AM Z
Thanks so much for responding Judy your definitions along with the sense of
humor are so good .... responses on this list always left me with a
smile..... with your permission I would like to quote you on the fine art
photography answer .
Wishing you lots of warmth in your city's arctic chill
farah
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Alternative Photography Processes -Defination
>
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Farah Mahbub wrote:
>
> > Salaam everyone,
> >
> > Greeting from this part of the world ....
> >
> > My new updated website will be going on line soon (InshAllah) ... and I
need
> > a little help in putting some info together for it with your kind help.
My
> > plan is to have a section on my site for students who will hopefully in
the
> > near future learn some Alternative Photography Processes (a first in my
part
> > of the world) I will be using your definitions and various answers with
your
> > name to put on line .
> >
> > 1- Define the term Alternative photography processes ?
>
> Hi Farah... greetings from arctic New York...
>
> I didn't notice any reply to this... though folks mau have commented
> offlist. I think perhaps the moment when this question was gripping is
> not now, at least not on this list...
>
> Which is to say, that argument may be over... We did it about 1997, ran a
> long thread... maybe it's still available in the archive. I quoted it in
> the first Post-Factory -- in sum, no definition was fully satisfactory...
> candidates ranged from noble processes to classic processes, to basically
> whatever I say, just not "straight." Which was a lot of why I used the
> term "Post-Factory" -- meaning whatever was done after, or not in, or not
> with their kit, or not kosher according to instructions of, factory.
>
> > 2- What is your favorite technique and formula ?
>
> Whew... broad question. I think maybe you need to -- what's the
> expression? Prime the pump? Like, say, I think the noblest alternative
> process is xxxxxxxxxxx with the xxxxxxxxx formula -- and then give
> reasons, if possible disparaging some other formula or process, which
> might get someone going, then someone else & so forth.
>
> > 3- What does fine art photography mean to you ?
>
> What does it mean to *you*? To me, it's photography I like, approve of,
> enjoy, even looove. I'll give a good example & a bad one.
>
> John Stevenson sent out an announcement for his upcoming John Dugdale
> show, including an announcement for a group show, showing prints from
> Dugdale, Ernestine Ruben, Imogen Cunningham, Sheila Metzner and Ruth
> Bernhard. Words fail me in attempt to describe my distaste for the
> Bernhard. I thought her babes in boxes were bad. This is babe in wet
> silk. I am not making that up -- title is Wet Silk. If it were in color NO
> ONE would not know it was soft porn.
>
> A photograph I liked a lot, enormously, was Dan Estabrook's announcement
> for his show at Sarah Morthland, "Braid," pencil on calotype, 8x6 inches.
> Enchanting -- and the fingerprints on the card were DELIBERATE.
>
> > 4- How would you categorize photography as digital art ... manipulations
and
> > montages ?
>
> Exactly. You said it just right.
>
> > 5- Your favorite photography website and link is .......
>
> The one I hear the most about is Ed Buffaloe's Unblinking Eye -- I've
> never been there because I don't do websites if possible to avoid (TV with
> crashes, tho I guess I repeat myself on that), but I trust Ed (and
> besides, he was great in Post-Factory).
>
> Another we hear mentioned a lot for good stuff is the Stanford University
> site -- but I'm told that's mostly downloads of classic literature.
> Certainly a public service, but (if my impression is correct), not the
> same force of personality.
>
> > Thank you in advance for any help ... suggestions... ideas you can give
me
> > in this regard
>
> If you can, put on a little show -- maybe even pages of a book -- it might
> excite/interest students more than text.
>
> good luck, and may you soon have dozens of accolytes spreading the word...
>
> cheers,
>
> Judy
>
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards
> > Farah Mahbub
> > Senior faculty
> > Department of Communication Design
> > Indus Valley School of Art and Architecture
> > http://www.indusvalley.edu.pk/
> > http://www.farahmahbub.com
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> > Fax # (9221) 5861048
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> >
> >
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