From: clay (wcharmon@wt.net)
Date: 02/03/02-08:23:28 PM Z
Jeff:
If cool is what you're looking for, try gold chloride and room temperature
ammonium citrate developer. Probably be a bit slower. The K-Oxalate cold
bath developer is somewhere in between in my experience. The recipe is on
the B&S site.
Clay
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>From: Jeff Buckels <jeffbuck@swcp.com>
>To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
>Subject: Re: Lenox Redux
>Date: Sun, Feb 3, 2002, 5:04 PM
>
>Clay: Potassium oxalate at approx. 90F.... Will get some gold chloride this
>week and see if I can make cool print w/ the Lenox.... -jb
>
>clay wrote:
>
>> Jeff:
>>
>> Your analysis totally agrees with my experience with those two papers. For
>> whatever reason, I use the lenox on smaller 4x5 and 5x7 prints and the
>> Platine on larger 8x10 and 7x17's. Not really sure why other than maybe I
>> don't want to 'waste' the pricey Platine on anything but something big, and
>> it is certainly easier to handle wet in the larger print sizes.
>>
>> Just curious, what developer was used, and at what temperature was your test
>> done? When I use hot (130-140 degrees+) Potassium oxalate, the Platine's
>> shadow areas seem to maybe be warmer than the Lenox.
>>
>> Clay
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>> >From: Jeff Buckels <jeffbuck@swcp.com>
>> >To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
>> >Subject: Lenox Redux
>> >Date: Sun, Feb 3, 2002, 4:11 PM
>> >
>>
>> >Printed with Lenox yesterday. Observations follow, all as compared to
>> >Platine, the only other paper I've used to any extent:
>> >
>> >For 25 to 50 sheets, Lenox is $1 a sheet (22/30) from D. Smith. Platine
>> >is four or six times more expensive, depending on the vendor and
>> >quantity.
>> >
>> >I printed a 5x7 portrait that I had previously printed on Platine. I
>> >was very happy with that print. Same everything but the paper (10 drops
>> >FO, 5 drops pt, 5 drops pd, dev. in Potassium Ox., with contrast kicked
>> >up "two stops" w/ sodium dichromate solution).
>> >
>> >Lenox is just slightly creamy white, as compared to Platine's pretty
>> >dang white.
>> >
>> >Coating (w/ Richeson 9010 brush) very easy w/ both papers.
>> >
>> >Both prints exposed for 10' in Edwards 11x14 inch black light oven.
>> >
>> >The Lenox print is warmer. Not overwhelmingly so, just warmer. With
>> >myself and three civilians voting, it was a tie as to which print had
>> >the better color -- the relatively warm Lenox or the more neutral
>> >Platine print.
>> >
>> >The evaluators, including myself, felt there was something subtly
>> >"clearer" about the Platine print. It is very hard to nail this down
>> >but I believe the difference was real. I don't know if this is the
>> >consequence of the difference in color, and I didn't have the chemicals
>> >on hand to try and duplicate the color of the Platine somehow and see.
>> >
>> >The vaunted "smooth tonal transition" of the Lenox was there. I found
>> >it pretty much impossible to distinguish the Lenox from the Platine on
>> >this basis.
>> >
>> >The Platine had better dmax.
>> >
>> >The Lenox paper retains a lot of moisture in development. My
>> >development runs about twenty minutes: dev., rinse, clearing, rinse,
>> >clearing, wash. Lenox gets quite soggy, esp. at the corners. You can
>> >ding the edges by less-than-careful tray handling during the wet
>> >processing. If you hang the print from a clothespin or whatever just
>> >after wet processing, the pin will leave an indentation, maybe even
>> >produce a tear. The Platine is tougher in this way. Cotton vs. rag
>> >paper, I guess. Lenox takes much longer to dry than Platine. When dry,
>> >it seems to handle about the same as Platine.
>> >
>> >Lenox displays a curious shady pattern of parallel bars (like 15, let's
>> >say, lengthwise of a 5x7) which is apparent upon coating and early
>> >stages of wet processing. It disappears in course of processing. I
>> >think it's a pattern laid down by the internal sizing, like the
>> >"blotches" visible when processing Platine (mentioned recently).
>> >
>> >That's all I can think of just now.
>> >
>> >Jeff Buckels
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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