From: Cactus Cowboy (cactus@tritel.net)
Date: 02/21/02-11:35:59 PM Z
Greetings from Big Wonderful Wyoming,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Lovenguth" <chrisml@pacbell.net>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: What is "Good Photography"?
> I find it interesting that of all groups of people us photographers would
> not see the significant statement being made in having a room transform
> itself from light to dark at calculated intervals. Ironic to me that whom
What "significant statement"? (ROTFLMAO) Sure, we can all appreciate the
beauty in mundane everyday events, e.g. lights turning on and off, but does
this justify giving Martin Creed a prestigious art award for such a banal
idea? I don't think so. Did you actually read Dave Barry's column? Mr.
Barry makes more sense in one short column than many art school professors
ever will in their entire careers.
> criticizes this wouldn't think about this idea but focus more on effort
made
> in an object (or lack there of). But then again being so focused in
> alternative process is all about a precious object. Not that I'm
personally
> attacking any of you I just find this interesting. I also find it
> interesting that people really believe that curators have that much power.
You're making a hasty conclusion based on a false premise. I DID think
about the idea. I (and many other people) are not as focused on tangible
works of art ("precious object") as you suggest. I'm not so engrossed in
alternative photographic processes that I'm oblivious to music, poetry, and
performance art.
Ever try to get your work in a museum Christopher? If you have, then you
would understand that curators do wield power.
> Also the fact that some artists seem the need to attack the validity of
> someone else's work. There is already such little support of artists in
this
> world and now in this post-modern era artist also have to look out for
other
> artist questioning validity. Not questioning style, composition and form,
> mind you, but rather if it is altogether is worth looking at as art. I
call
> this the "I can do that so it isn't art" syndrome.
No wonder that there's "such little support of artists in this world" when
poseurs such as Creed pass off uninspired crap as art and are handsomely
rewarded for it. The general public (being much smarter than the art world
cognoscenti) consider it a joke, as evidenced by Barry's humor column.
Three cheers for the janitor who cleaned up and discarded the art gallery
'trash art' installation. Why was this smart janitor not hailed for
creating a brilliant artwork entitled "Clean Gallery"? Maybe because he
didn't pay $50,000 for an advanced art degree?
Best regards,
Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: illovich [mailto:illovich@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:36 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> Subject: Re: What is "Good Photography"?
>
> >At 08:34 PM 18/02/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >He can do whatever he wants, and the critics will declare that it's art,
> >especially if it
> >>annoys normal people".
> >>
> >>Link to Barry's column:
>
>>http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/columnists/dave_barry/2679614.
> ht
> >
> >It's the Emperor's new clothes!
> >
> >The trouble that the misinformed and ignorant public (like me and you)
has
> >is that when we dare to speak up and say that these so-called "art works"
> >are preposterous and outrageous, then the defenders of art suddenly crawl
> >out from the crevices to chastise us for missing the point of the work
and
> >of art itself. There seems to be no point in even trying to debate the
> >matter, because if the almighty curator has pontificated that the work is
> >art, then why would we even dare suggest that it is not! The appeal to
> >authority is stronger than common sense, even though the janitor
correctly
> >recognized the trash installation for what it was and tried to dispose of
> it.
>
> All very well and good...when you saw the piece in question, what did
> you think of it?
>
>
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