RE: Kimdura and Denril Multi-Media Vellum

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From: John Campbell (tojohn@texas.net)
Date: 01/21/02-06:27:08 PM Z


Sandy-

LOL! Context and perception are everything! When I read your original
inquiry about these media, I was in the midst of angst in dealing with newly
emerging problems creating DigiNegs on a Name Brand transparency stock
(hint: its initials are Pictorico OHT) through a controversial printer
(Epson 3000) using a proprietary ink-driver combination (ConeTech
Piezeography), I was flailing about for something new to try when your post
floated down like a feather. Something New!

I am contact printing to several different media-- Centennial POP, Pt/Pd
(and gold) hand-coated papers, and playing around with hand-coating wood
surfaces, as well. The aforementioned "Computer-GRAFIX 2/side matte
translucent imaging film" fills the bill (so far) on all counts-producing
good negatives in a wide range of D-Max images. I have made other
adjustments in the overall configuration (the Epso-Piezeo combination)-if
anyone is interested I'll be glad to provide the specifics.

As for its use as a carbon tissue support, etc., etc., etc., I haven't a
clue. I don' t know beans. I am blissfully ignorant. And very grateful
for the synchronicity of my misperception. (Seems I recall inquiring about
your intended use when I replied with a source for one of the brands you
were looking for. . . ? Thanks for not reading that far-your reply might
have thrown me off course! )

I'm not sure exactly how to define emotionally fragile vellum-but I know it
when I see it. It is not pretty.

Anyway, I hope these positive comments about a negative media will be
helpful to someone out there.

Hasta!
--John

www.photogecko.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 4:29 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
Subject: RE: Kimdura and Denril Multi-Media Vellum

Hi John,

Well, here is the thing. You apparently have done the right thing but
for the wrong reasons. Fact is, my earlier inquiries about sources
for Kimdura and Denril MultiMedia Vellum involved my interest in
these materials as possible supports for making carbon tissue, and/or
for use as the soluble transfer paper (with suitable preparation) for
making color carbons and/or multiple layer monochorome carbons.

That said, your report on the printing qualities of various vellum
type surfaces if very interesting and potentially useful to many
applications. But please clarify, exactly what type of printing are
you doing?

BTW, what is the difference between and emotionally stable and
emotionally fragile vellum?

Regards,

Sandy King

>Sandy,
>
>I took the hint from your initial inquiry and have been testing some
>different media; here are the high points of what I get, so far:
>
>Denril won't hold up under heavy ink-it warps, wobbles, and whines.
Likewise
>with most other vellums, with one or two notable exceptions-
>
>Canson Vidalon Vellum prints well, with good separation and tone, provided
>you coat it heavily and evenly prior to printing. I use Blair 201 matte
>spray. This media is (the vellum, not the spray) very sensitive to skin
>oils-wear gloves.
>
>The Absolute Overall Winner is a product called "Computer-GRAFIX 2/side
>matte translucent Imaging Film." I bought a 25 sheet pack, 11x17, .003",
for
>around $20.00 at Herweck's (www.herwecks.com). It appears to be vellum, but
>isn't labeled so. This stuff is well behaved-- very dimensionally stable
and
>not emotionally fragile.
>
>I'll be printing with it all week. If there are any surprises, I'll raise
a
>flag.
>
>--John
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:25 PM
>To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
>Subject: Re: Kimdura and Denril Multi-Media Vellum
>
>
>How dimensionally stable is Kimdura/Yupo/Synteape? More than regular
>watercolor? As stable as plastics?
>
>What exactly is this material? A plastic or resin coated paper?
>
>BTW, thanks to Dave and John for the previous responses to my earlier
>messages requesting sources for Kimdura and Denril Multi-Media Vellum.
>
>
>
>Sandy King
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>on 3/1/02 10:13 pm, Sandy King at sanking@clemson.edu wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know of a good source for purchase of Kimdura and/or
>>> Denril Multi-Media Vellum?
>>>
>>> Sandy King
>>>
>>>
>>Kimdura is the American name for Yupo, in the UK it is called Synteape I
>>have used it as a base for my Temperaprint for about ten years an
excellent
>>product
>>
>>try http://www.yupo.com/
>>
>>Pete
>
>
>--

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