RE: Kimdura and Denril Multi-Media Vellum

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From: Sandy King (sanking@clemson.edu)
Date: 01/21/02-07:45:56 PM Z


John,

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>I am contact printing to several different media-- Centennial POP, Pt/Pd
>(and gold) hand-coated papers, and playing around with hand-coating wood
>surfaces, as well. The aforementioned "Computer-GRAFIX 2/side matte
>translucent imaging film" fills the bill (so far) on all counts-producing
>good negatives in a wide range of D-Max images. I have made other
>adjustments in the overall configuration (the Epso-Piezeo combination)-if
>anyone is interested I'll be glad to provide the specifics.

Very interesting news about the Computer-Grafix 2/side matte imaging
film. As a new owner of Epson C80 and 2000P printers I am also
interested in making negatives using this type of material. Any other
information you might want to share on the use of this material, in
comparison to others, would be most welcome.

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>As for its use as a carbon tissue support, etc., etc., etc., I haven't a
>clue. I don' t know beans. I am blissfully ignorant. And very grateful
>for the synchronicity of my misperception. (Seems I recall inquiring about
>your intended use when I replied with a source for one of the brands you
>were looking for. . . ? Thanks for not reading that far-your reply might
>have thrown me off course! )

Yes, I now notice your inquiry. However, the thing is I have been
doing some consulting work recently for a ceramics outfit interested
in using color carbon as the imaging system and I have been somewhat
overwhelmed with research to investigate how this might best be
carried out, thus some inattention to details of the type above!!

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>Anyway, I hope these positive comments about a negative media will be
>helpful to someone out there.

Thank you again. Serendipity sometimes prevails over all else.

Sandy King

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>Hasta!
>--John
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 4:29 PM
>To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
>Subject: RE: Kimdura and Denril Multi-Media Vellum
>
>Hi John,
>
>Well, here is the thing. You apparently have done the right thing but
>for the wrong reasons. Fact is, my earlier inquiries about sources
>for Kimdura and Denril MultiMedia Vellum involved my interest in
>these materials as possible supports for making carbon tissue, and/or
>for use as the soluble transfer paper (with suitable preparation) for
>making color carbons and/or multiple layer monochorome carbons.
>
>That said, your report on the printing qualities of various vellum
>type surfaces if very interesting and potentially useful to many
>applications. But please clarify, exactly what type of printing are
>you doing?
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>BTW, what is the difference between and emotionally stable and
>emotionally fragile vellum?
>
>Regards,
>
>Sandy King
>
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>>Sandy,
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>>I took the hint from your initial inquiry and have been testing some
>>different media; here are the high points of what I get, so far:
>>
>>Denril won't hold up under heavy ink-it warps, wobbles, and whines.
>Likewise
>>with most other vellums, with one or two notable exceptions-
>>
>>Canson Vidalon Vellum prints well, with good separation and tone, provided
>>you coat it heavily and evenly prior to printing. I use Blair 201 matte
>>spray. This media is (the vellum, not the spray) very sensitive to skin
>>oils-wear gloves.
>>
>>The Absolute Overall Winner is a product called "Computer-GRAFIX 2/side
>>matte translucent Imaging Film." I bought a 25 sheet pack, 11x17, .003",
>for
>>around $20.00 at Herweck's (www.herwecks.com). It appears to be vellum, but
>>isn't labeled so. This stuff is well behaved-- very dimensionally stable
>and
>>not emotionally fragile.
>>
>>I'll be printing with it all week. If there are any surprises, I'll raise
>a
>>flag.
>>
>>--John
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>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
>>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:25 PM
>>To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
>>Subject: Re: Kimdura and Denril Multi-Media Vellum
>>
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>>How dimensionally stable is Kimdura/Yupo/Synteape? More than regular
> >watercolor? As stable as plastics?
>>
>>What exactly is this material? A plastic or resin coated paper?
>>
>>BTW, thanks to Dave and John for the previous responses to my earlier
>>messages requesting sources for Kimdura and Denril Multi-Media Vellum.
>>
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>>
>>Sandy King
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>>>on 3/1/02 10:13 pm, Sandy King at sanking@clemson.edu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of a good source for purchase of Kimdura and/or
>>>> Denril Multi-Media Vellum?
>>>>
>>>> Sandy King
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Kimdura is the American name for Yupo, in the UK it is called Synteape I
>>>have used it as a base for my Temperaprint for about ten years an
>excellent
>>>product
>>>
>>>try http://www.yupo.com/
>>>
>>>Pete
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