From: Nick Makris (nick@mcn.org)
Date: 01/22/02-03:44:45 PM Z
John, thanks for the reply. When I say "spray", I am referring to the
requirement that one use Krylon or some other product to protect the
delicate image produced by the combination of Pictorico Film and pigment
based inks. The inks simply remain on the surface and subject to
marring/damage by just touching the surface gently.
Since you are using Piezography (pigment inks), I question the need to
"spray" the image to protect it. If I understand you correctly, you are
saying that you are not required to spray and that the pigment inks adhere
fully to the film in question here.
So for the record:
the name once again?
where to buy?
example of cost?
sizes?
what effect (if any) does the matte surface have on the clarity/sharpness of
the image?
As for the mid-tone problem, you asked when I apply the curve - in fact,
with this test, I don't invert to negative the image is a 21 step in both
positive and negative. The mid-tones go all to hell on both POS/NEG parts
and I believe because of the Krylon..................
Many thanks once again,
Nick
> Hi, Nick-
>
> I'm not sure I know what you mean by spraying. I am using the Cone
pigments,
> but not the PiezzographyBW driver (not, that is, for negatives). They
adhere
> and dry okay on the Computer-GRAFIX material. I spray (?) a matte coating
> on the Canson vellum, just for emotional support ;~>
>
> With both media, I still get a spot or two of micro-banding-especially in
> denser regions. This seems to happen after the Eppy 3000 stops to think
> about things in the midst of printing, if you know what I mean-the thing
> prints along just fine until about of a third of the way, then pauses,
parks
> itself, thinks about several things, and then goes back to printing. If it
> happens to be in a dense area when it starts printing again it gives a
spot
> or two of bands along the way. BUT! I've started using a fluffy
watercolor
> brush (Winsor & Newton series 240, size 3, to be precise) to lightly brush
> out the bad bad band lines as the print comes out of the machine. So far,
> so good. Another unpredictable and maddening phenomenon is the occasional
> random single line the Eppy sees fit to deposit for no particular reason
> than its own morbid pleasure.
> For what it's worth, I used to rip, shred, stomp, and burn negative prints
> that were flawed. I wasted a lot of media. Now days I use brushes,
> watercolor pigments, charcoal pencils, razor blades, and erasers to
correct
> many problems. Somehow in the crazy mix between me, the equipment, the
> software, the inks, and the media, I manage very few flawless negatives.
A
> cosmetic make-over on each one has really helped the results, and my
> disposition has benefited greatly.
> It would really help to find out the chemical composition of the Cone ink
> solution-or, better yet, what would be a reliable non-devastating VERY
WEAK
> solvent for the neutral carbons. I'm thinking it would be nice to lightly
> dissolve and blend real problem areas. I know water doesn't work (even if
> diluted!); nor does alcohol (well, not scotch, anyway). Any clues out
there
> in AltLand?
>
> My mid tones are looking okay-at least through my presbyopic eyes. Are you
> applying a Pt Curve before inverting your image to negative? Just a
> thought.
>
> Let me know if any of this is getting at your questions. And please
forgive
> my lengthy prattle.
>
> I hope you (all) are well,
> --John
>
> www.photogecko.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Makris [mailto:nick@mcn.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:56 AM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> Subject: Re: Computer-GRAFIX 2/side matte
>
> John, And does your ink (assuming pigment base by Cone) adhere and dry
> without spraying??? If not Cone, what ink?
>
> My recent testing shows a huge problem with spraying the image - while it
> looks great as a reflected image, the mid-tones run together badly when
> transmitting UV....
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Nick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kees Brandenburg" <info@co-web.org>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 2:05 AM
> Subject: Computer-GRAFIX 2/side matte
>
>
> > John,
> > Yes.... please tell us about your negative making workflow with
> > Computer-GRAFIX 2/side matte and epson/piezo. What problems did you
> > have with Pictorico?
> > Do you have some more information on this Computer-GRAFIX stuff. Who
> > is the manufacturer - is there online documentation on this product?
> > Availability in Europe?
> >
> > Kees
> >
> >
> >
> > >I am contact printing to several different media-- Centennial POP,
Pt/Pd
> > >(and gold) hand-coated papers, and playing around with hand-coating
wood
> > >surfaces, as well. The aforementioned "Computer-GRAFIX 2/side matte
> > >translucent imaging film" fills the bill (so far) on all
counts-producing
> > >good negatives in a wide range of D-Max images. I have made other
> > >adjustments in the overall configuration (the Epso-Piezeo
combination)-if
> > >anyone is interested I'll be glad to provide the specifics.
> >
> > --
> >
>
>
>
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