From: John Campbell (tojohn@texas.net)
Date: 01/27/02-07:27:32 PM Z
Nick-You are right on; none of the vellum held up when I pushed it into the
ranges of ink density I needed for several of my images. I pulled all four
pigment carts out of the Eppy 3000 and replaced them with conventional inks
and starting printing on ORDINARY OHP film sheets (Apollo, I think it was)
left over from my university teaching stint. It worked quite well, although
I won't wax ecstatic until I run contact prints in the coming week.
So-my inclination now is to order some of the "new" Pictorico sheets and see
what the results look like. I suspect that the added ceramic coating will
dull the values, but I'd be delighted to be wrong. If the sheets show
promise, I'll order a roll of the new stuff (at $240 a pop!) and get back
into full production. I also think I'll change my production flow. Whereas
previously I ran all my negatives and then began contact printing-I think
I'll try running one neg at a time and then printing an entire run (however
many copies) of a given image.
It is just inconceivable to me that I can get such good results direct
printing (with pigment or conventional carts) onto Fabrino Uno paper (or
others), but can't seem to get consistent results on a media that will both
hold ink and pass light at the same time.
I'd be glad to help with your test. If you would like to send your floppy to
me, let me know off list and I'll give you my address. I'll use the new
Pictorico once it's in-no need to send me any sheets.
Go easy,
John, tilting at windmills
www.photogecko.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Makris [mailto:nick@mcn.org]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:15 PM
To: Alt Photo
Subject: Acrylic Spay - protecting digital/inkjet images
Still at it here, this has been a long arduous battle - this digital
negative business. To date, I am only using the Lightjet negs commercially
and I have begun to fade from this daunting hunt.
My recent post/reply to John Campbell about the film he was kind of high on
led nowhere - he responded off list that there were some misgivings and he
also is still hunting for the holy grail (correct me if I'm wrong on this
John).
So, here's another shot at it. As I reported here recently, I tested/have
been testing the Pictorico OHP film with MIS Full Spectrum Quad Black
Pigment Based inks and have found (like others) that the ink won't dry and
the image is very susceptible to damage. I also reported that spraying the
image degrades/muddles the midtones, at least with the two clear acrylics
that I tried.
So, since I still have some of the original MIS Quad Black DYE Based inks
around here, I set out to determine if that ink dries on Pictorico OHP film.
Success, or is it??? While the ink dries appropriately, I have no printer
to test it on without significant trouble and with no guarantee of success.
I
am therefore quite reluctant to persue this since I'm very gunshy at this
juncture.
I would be much more willing to colaborate with someone who currently using
Quad Black DYE Based inks to test this method. One should probably be on a
Win PC(although I could email the files and a Mac would be ok) and have
Photoshop 5/6. I will send a floppy with a test image (300K) with curve for
an Epson 1160 applied, a piece of Pictorico film, some instructions to print
two copies of it on the one piece of film and the setup instructions for the
printer.
A 4 color Epson printer would be preferred or an 1160 would be ideal.
Would anyone like to participate. The whole test might take you a half an
hour. As I recall, someone has an 1160 on a Mac, but I can't recall if your
using Quad black (and much more DYE based) ink's Judy?
BTW, I dearly love the output from the 1160 and I am currently searching for
a suitable archivable paper to print on.
Would also like very much to hear from anyone else in this boat.
Many thanks for listening,
Nick
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