jeffbuck@swcp.com
Date: 07/01/02-08:41:28 AM Z
Halvor and All: I got some "Gampi" from Kinsella and I've had a very hard
time with it. Just can't get a clean print. VERY hard to coat. It's
brownish -- paper bag color, really -- and dries to a lovely old parchment
look. But I can't get even coating. Image comes out mottled, uneven, etc.
I used about as much pt/pd on it as I could bear, then put it aside. Would
love a suggestion or two. -jb
Halvor <halvorb@mac.com> said:
> Dear list....
>
> Where to start..
>
> I am mainly printing on Torinoko Gampi, have however discovered that there
> is about 4 different papers with that name. Possibly by several different
> makers. The name Torinoko (which from the sound only - means "bird child",
> the spelling might give different result) is supposed to be the methode of
> making the paper, and Gampi the material, ie a plant.
>
> Now, Dick Arentz's book mention a 90 gsm TG paper, with "long swirling
> fibers", here in Japan - Washi or "Japanese Paper" is not sold with weight
> info, I have found one paper which matches that description, brownish, long
> fibers (white) kind of hard sizing (easy to coat) addition of tween helps
on
> density...... anyway
>
> The TG Paper I mainly am using can be caracterised as, bleached white,
> probably about 200 gsm, front side smooth with fine very small "hairs",
> backside have a regular pattern of lines vertical and horisontal (sort of
> squarish), no visible fibers, weak sizing, The addition of 1 drop of 1 %
> tween solution for a 4*5 size gives a 0.1 increase in dmax, anything
> stronger is too strong. Max edge Density over base about 1.6 +/- (with Pd),
>
> The main point is the print looks like it is done in ink. Very beautifull
> quality of the edges. The surface fibres gives sort of a velvet impression,
>
> now this same surface absorption qualities is due to rather veak glue - and
> big fun in the washing. Particularily when trying to lift anything bigger
> than an 8 * 10 size when wet. (Yes - change water, don't move the print,
> that is at the moment not possible) After about 30 min in wet condition the
> paper is soaked and starts swelling, close to dissolving, and occasionally
> with small nice air bubbles inside the paper, I still have an aprx. 50 %
> succsess rate on the prints and the result is "worth it". (I stupidly
> belive).
>
> Extra sizing ruins the aesthetics of the surface (should try a layer on the
> backside maybe , but the backside is not the main problem.)
>
> If I can keep the "wet" time under 30 min I avoid most of these problems !
> It clears fine in EDTA in about 10 min.
>
> My 5 recipies on Pt/Pd printing agrees on one point - 30 min washing time.
> I assume this is for a "normally" glued / starched paper and (hope :) that
> this might be different for this paper, the defraction rate (?) should be
> better for a weak sized paper ?
>
> Comments ? (I mean please help)
>
> Or is this just wishfull thinking :)
>
> Sorry if this got a bit long & messy, thick head after a day in the dark.
>
>
> Halvor
> Tokyo
>
>
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