From: Christina Z. Anderson (zphoto@montana.net)
Date: 07/08/02-12:20:30 PM Z
Having seen Stuart's and Klimek's gums I have to agree with Jeff here--they
look not like cibas but they look like they have a depth and a gloss that
does not approximate a color photo but is juicy and three dimensional. I'm
trying to search for descriptive words to convey the effect but it is
hard--maybe like this: if you melted a bunch of jujubes or jujyfruit candy
and let them ooze on the paper, that is what they approximate...edible and
chewy.
Chris
PS Don Bryant if you are reading this, email me off list. I have lost your
email address and I have a question for you. Plus, you saw Melvin's prints
too, and I bet you could come up with another description.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeffbuck@swcp.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>; Katharine Thayer
<kthayer@pacifier.com>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Large format conf. ABQ
> Though I did not attend the Alt Photo Conf in Albuquerque, I have in
recent
> weeks seen numerous recently-produced gum-overs and gums by Stuart Melvin,
> Kerik Kouklis, Stan Klimek and others. I'm puzzled by Katherine Thayer's
> posting. Maybe the gum-over craft has simply been elevated in recent
times.
> Anyway, I see very little connection between these recent gum-overs/gums
and
> Cibachromes. The color/texture appeal is to me altogether different. For
> that matter (full disclosure) I'm not sure I've ever seen a Cibachrome I'd
> allow on the same wall with a fine gum-over. These gum-overs/gums I've
seen
> recently include some of the most beautiful pictures, of any kind, I've
ever
> seen. -jeff buckels
>
>
> Katharine Thayer <kthayer@pacifier.com> said:
>
> > Richard Sullivan wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > When Stuart brought out his 20 x 24 twelve coat gums there was a
audible
> > > murmur in the audience. Those prints are unlike anything I've ever
seen,
> > > and if I did not know, I would have guessed they were carbons except
for
> > > the luminosity. They had an unearthly glow to them. ... They were
> certainly not your Photo 101 gritty
> > > gums.
> >
> > Not to take anything from Stuart, but glowing gum prints are hardly new;
> > people have been printing glowing gum prints for quite a while. For a
> > couple of examples, Hamish Stewart's many-layered prints come to mind,
> > and there was a fellow in LA who did gum prints that looked like
> > Cibachromes, and I did some glowing gum prints myself earlier in my
> > career but it wasn't an aesthetic I found pleasing for my own work. I
> > figured if I wanted to make something that looked like Cibachromes I'd
> > print Cibachromes, it would be a whole lot less trouble.
> > Katharine
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