From: Nick Makris (nick@mcn.org)
Date: 07/21/02-07:06:54 AM Z
I am only speaking from my experience and from my collaborations with others
on this same problem. While I have no doubt that what you and Sandy say is
true, what I have stated is also true. In order for that to be the case,
there obviously is some difference between those inks and the inks I and
others are using.
I am also aware of the Burkholder method that uses color ink to produce
spectral density negs - it's not what I am try to accomplish.
As I said in my original post, there are a huge number of considerations
here. What it seems to boil down to is that most all the quad tone inks are
pigment inks and "those particular inks" are not compatible with most clear
base inkjet/OHTP films. IF ANYONE OUT THERE IS SUCCESSFULLY USING A THIRD
PARTY QUAD TONE INK WITH A CLEAR BASE FILM, would they please let me know.
I am aware that some new printers and their proprietary inks (not available
in bulk or for my Epson 1160 or 1520) print well on film. Not withstanding
that, please read the series of posts between me and Chip Pryor of Pictorico
below (it begins and then ends with >>>>>>>>>>>>>).
So the search for the holy grail continues, at least for me............
Nick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We've only tested Jon Cone's Piezographic Quadtone inks and have found them
to behave the same as MIS inks-- OK on textured surfaces, but can be easily
rubbed off on smoother surfaces.
Chip
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Makris
To: Chip Pryor
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Pictorico Technical Inquiry
How about any quad dye based inks that you have tested and are known to dry
fully?
Many thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: Chip Pryor
To: Nick Makris
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Pictorico Technical Inquiry
Nick,
I'm not really sure. I've heard that Lyson inks might, but we haven't
tested them yet.
Chip Pryor
National Brand Manager
Pictorico Ink Jet Media
http://www.pictorico.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Makris
To: Chip Pryor
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Pictorico Technical Inquiry
Chip, I'm still searching around for the all purpose pigment based
printer/ink setup. My interest is to avoid multiple printers - I already
have 3 on my desk and don't want a 4th.
Would you care to let me know which black/gray 'pigment' based inks dry well
on your OHP film? Other than Piezography inks.
Many thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: Chip Pryor
To: nick@mcn.org
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 7:47 AM
Subject: Pictorico Technical Inquiry
>>>Hi, I have some OHP film (8.5X11) and the ink won't adhere permanently.
I'm using a quadtone inkset from MIS (the Full Spectrum black/gray). Any
help will be appriciated.>>>
Sorry for my late reply.
MIS inks are not very compatible with smooth surfaces, such as our OHP
Transparency Film. Apparently the ink solvent does not anchor completely to
the smooth sheet, enabling you to brush off the ink easily after printing.
>From the feedback we have received, MIS inks do much better on sheets with
some texture that allow the anchoring to take place.
Chip Pryor
National Brand Manager
Pictorico Ink Jet Media
http://www.pictorico.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diana H. Bloomfield" <dlhbloom@mindspring.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Inkjet Negatives for Van Dyke
> Nick,
>
> I'm also having no trouble making digital negs using pigment inks with
> Pictorico film. I'm using Epson's C80 and its Durabrite pigment-based
> inks, and I've been pretty pleased with the results.
>
> -Diana
>
> Nick Makris wrote:
> >
> > Victor, If you plan to use a dye based ink, then what you are planning
may
> > work. Pictorico will not readily accept pigment based inks. There is a
> > huge amount to discuss about the points in between, but I'm still
searching
> > for the film medium that will accept pigment based ink (quad black) and
I'm
> > not having a good time. I believe Cone and most Quad inks are pigment.
> >
> > Nick
>
>
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