Pigment vs dye ink density's for pt/pd, gum

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lrryr@attbi.com
Date: 03/08/02-11:17:40 AM Z


I have found the pigment inks on pictorico to have
unexpectedly higher density with both gum and ziatypes.I
havn't quantified it at all but when I set my curve for
a .8 density range, as read by my densitometer, it is
too much for gum and not too bad for the ziatypes. This
is goodness because when you try to use all the density
that pictorico is capable of the curve get's way non-
linear, it's best to stay under 1.0 or so (densitometer
measurement).

A side note on this is the only quadtone ink that dries
fast enough for pictorico is the peizo ink, which then
needs an overcoat spray to keep it from smudging. I was
hoping the much less expensive MIS-FS inks would work as
well but I saw a note from Nick that they did not dry
well enough.

I'm trying to get time to try the MIS-Wolff work flow
with the Epson driver and the Peizo inks, should cover
the pictorico zero dot gain 'problem' better than the
non-dithered peizo driver does. Maybe this weekend.

Larry
> Katherine,
>
> You might be able to reduce the ink pooling by fooling the printer and using
> a setting that would lay down less ink.... you would do this by choosing a
> different media in the printer set up window...
>
> Just a thought
>
> I wonder if there is a difference between dye based inks and pigment based
> inks when making spectral negatives? Anyone tested whether one is a better
> UV blocker than the other?
>
> Mark Nelson
> In a message dated 3/8/02 9:18:40 AM, kthayer@pacifier.com writes:
>
> << But with the better printer, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just print
> your negative in black. The spectral density methods in my opinion are
> best viewed as a workaround for the fact that the older printers don't
> print well in black on transparency material. The bigger droplets
> deposit too much ink when printing black (in colors) which then moves
> around on the Pictorico before it dries, leaving blank areas in the
> middle of and extra density around the edges of tonal areas and wrecking
> the negative. And when printing in black ink only, the negative will be
> grainy and may have visible banding. But with the smaller droplets, my
> understanding is that you shouldn't have either of those problems. At
> least that's what the Pictorico folks tell me.... >>
>


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