Re: Digital negs from pigment printers?

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Ender100@aol.com
Date: 10/12/02-10:41:56 PM Z


Hi Judy,

The Ultrachrome inks are rated about 50-70 years and are used in the new
2200, 7600, 9600 and 10600. I am guessing, but I think the Ultrachrome inks
may be a dye/pigment combination. The pigment versions of the large format
printers, the 7500, 9500 and the 10000 are still available and probably will
be for a long time.

A number of people have been using the pigment inks on the 2000p using
Pictorico film. Dan Burkholder has a curve for this combination on his
website.

I have been using the 10000 with pigment inks (there is also a dye ink
version option for the 10000) with Pictorico film and it comes out of the
printer nice and dry. I don't have to use any fixative spray.

<<The Epson lady hazarded the opinion that the "crystal inks" would
be unsuitable for negatives as actual crystals would sit on the paper and
disrupt transmission.>>

That's an interesting statement for her to make. Don't we kinda want the ink
to disrupt the light?

I think if I were testing any printer for digital negatives, I would start
first with Pictorico film and hope the ink dried on it. If not, you might
have to let it dry for a day and then spray with a fixative.

Someone on this list mentioned that they were making negatives on Pictorico
clear film with an Epson 2200 and Ultrachrome inks. The 2200 has a smaller
(I think 3 picoliter) variable dot size and prints at 2880 x 1440. It should
give very smooth negatives. (for inkjet)

Hope this helps,

Mark Nelson

In a message dated 10/13/02 12:10:07 AM, jseigel@panix.com writes:

<<
Dear List,

I recently had a heart to heart talk with a representative of the Epson
company, who explained that current plans are to ultimately replace dye
ink printers (1160, 1280, 1520, 3000, among others) with printers using a
pigment ink they call ultra chrome, or some future version thereof.

It seems that the 2000P, which uses the earlier pigment, is already
discontinued in favor of 2200, which uses the newer version.

I'm wondering if anyone is making digital negatives with either of the
pigment inks, on the 2000P, 2200, or other. If so, on what substrates?
This may in fact have been mentioned on the list, but got by me. If so,
sorry. The Epson lady hazarded the opinion that the "crystal inks" would
be unsuitable for negatives as actual crystals would sit on the paper and
disrupt transmission.

Any info would be appreciated.

cheers,

Judy >>


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