From: Gordon J. Holtslander (holtsg@duke.usask.ca)
Date: 09/02/02-08:49:27 PM Z
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On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, William Linne wrote:
> What the f*ck does this have to do with alt-process?
>
> Should be renamed alt-lonelyoldlady
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re:Psychanalysis/ The Natural Order of Things
>
>
> >
> > On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 ARTHURWG@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Most contemporary psychiatric practice seems to center on which drug or
> > > combination of drugs to use, or on various forms of behaviorism. Then
> there's
> > > all the psychotherapists who have an MSW degree and have no idea what
> > > they're doing and often do more harm than good. Arthur
> >
> > Since I was witness to my husband's training as psychiatric resident 35 or
> > so years ago, and his descriptions of training given the psychiatric
> > residents he teaches today, not to mention my own observations about
> > vicissitudes of "mental health" biz in the interim, I am moved to comment:
> >
> > In the '60s, psychiatric residents were trained in "psychodynamics,"
> > generally, or at the best hospitals, with a very psychoanalytical (read
> > "Freudian") bent. Today, for many reasons, most of them having to do with
> > medical economics (rise of the HMO, which only pays for a limited number
> > of visits, quick effects of psychotropic medicine) but also remarkable
> > advances in psychopharmacology, residential training has little
> > psychodynamics, while, to be boarded, a psychiatrist has to pass not just
> > psychopharmacology, but neurology, a field now also much enlarged.
> >
> > In the meantime however, the fields of social work and psychology have
> > vastly improved their training in psychodynamics -- an MSW in social work,
> > for instance (depending on where they trained) is, odds are, better
> > equipped for "talking cure" than the MD psychiatrist, unless the MD has
> > done a postgraduate course as some elect to do.
> >
> > But one who is contemplating this .... let's say fascinating & potentially
> > lifesaving.... adventure MUST MUST MUST ask about the "therapist's"
> > training. I've watched folks go into "therapy" without a clue about the
> > "school," degree or training of the "therapist," simply taking it on faith
> > because a friend "loved" them. And/or being embarrassed to ask. Would you
> > buy a used car no questions asked? And if you don't feel free to
> > question/challenge the therapist in such areas... finding out why not
> > should be very productive.
> >
> > The first question, after training, "modality," etc., is have they
> > themselves been through therapy, and of what nature. If a therapist has
> > not at least done a walk-through, odds of malevolent counter-transference
> > increase.
> >
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
>
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