From: Sandy King (sanking@clemson.edu)
Date: 04/05/03-10:19:39 AM Z
Chris,
As far as I am concerned brownprint is useless as a categorizing
term. James appears to be the only author who has used it in the
contemporary period but as far as I am concerned the process that he
describes as brownprint is really nothing more than a variant of
vandyke.
I certainly would not call a kallitype based on ferric oxalate a
brownprint. The best label for me is the broad category of
silver/iron, and within it kallitype based on ferric oxalate and
vandyke based on ferric ammonium citrate. Other ferric salts have
been used as sensitizers in the past, and some are still used today,
but overall the majority of work done with silver/iron processes is
with either ferric oxalate or ferric ammonium citrate. (And of course
the other citrates, such as ferric citrate, sodium ferric citrate,
etc. appear to work much more like FAC than with FO.
Sandy
>Thanx, Ed and Sandy,
> So, in other words, brown print really isn't all inclusive of those
>processes that print "brown" literally, but I assume it does include as you
>say VDB and argyrotype? But not salted paper, correct? And ziatype would
>be in the platinum/palladium category? And would you personally, Sandy, not
>include the modern form of kallitype? I know this is all a really stupid
>query but I am just trying to sort out 10 processes, and it looks like I can
>divide them into straight iron (cyano), iron/silver (VDB, kalli, argyro,
>salted paper), and iron/other metal (platinum, palladium, zia). Maybe that
>would be a better way of differentiating than calling any of them
>"brownprint" processes.
>Chris
>From: "Sandy King" <sanking@clemson.edu>
>To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
>Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:34 PM
>Subject: Re: brownprint question
>
>
>> Ed Buffaloe wrote:
>>
>> >I believe Sandy is still researching the origin and usage of the various
>> >names for what we call Vandyke. It has been brown print, sepia print,
>and
>> >lately Vandyke. I do not believe that platinum/palladium have ever been
>> >called brown prints--not that I've ever read, but I've only begun to
>study
>> >up on the history of the various processes.
>>
>>
>> I agree with Ed. I have found no indication in the literature that
>> the term "brownprint" was ever used to designate a platinum or
>> palladium process. The term was used to describe early forms of
>> kallitype and/or vandyke printing, and is used by Christopher James
>> to describe a variant of vandyke.
>>
>> Sandy King
>>
>>
>>
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>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Christina Z. Anderson" <zphoto@montana.net>
>> >To: "Alt list" <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
>> >Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:47 AM
>> >Subject: brownprint question
>> >
>> >
>> >Quickie: are pt/pd and ziatype included in the "brownprint" category or
>is
>> >that anaethema?
>> >Chris
>>
>>
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