From: Amy Cutting (amos1979@attbi.com)
Date: 04/22/03-07:13:50 PM Z
Marek,
Thank you for your wonderful reply! It sounds very interesting and I can't
wait for summer to get here so I'll have some time to try it out. I'm
assuming this image can be toned. Are there any good ones you've tried out
that you might recommend before I make the attempt? I'm sure I'll try some
anyway but it always helps to have a starting point. Many thanks, Amy
----- Original Message -----
From: <mmatusz@pdq.net>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 PM
Subject: Satista
Amy,
Sorry for the delay. I did not pay any attention to e-mails during Easter
weekend. Hereis my recipe:
Satista prints:
Papers that wok for me: Arches platine, Bergger COT320 (from Bostick and
Sullivan)
Sensitizer: Ferric ammonium oxalate, 40% solution, standard platinum
solution used in platinum or platinum - palladium printing (20% K2PtCl4),
A standard sensitizer formula for an 8x10 print is as follows: 1 drop of
Pt solution, 25 to 30 drops of FAO solution. I coat with a push rod.. You
can use more platinum, for example 4 drops, I have also used as little as
1 drop of 5% platinum solution (talking about economy now!). More platinum
will give blacker print, less platinum tends to give browner prints. Dry
very well. For best results there should be no moisture left in the paper.
Develop in 4% silver nitrate solution. Silver nitrate will store
indefinitely if made with distilled water and stored in the dark. Remember
silver nitrate will stain everyting that comes in contact with. Printing
is very fast. I have a bank of 6 20W lights and a typical time might be 2
minutes. There is no visible image after exposure so test strips are
necessary.
My development method is the same as coating method. With a plastic eye
dropper pour about 4 cc of silver nitrate solution on top of the print and
using the push rod spread it evenly over the entire print in one single
pass. Remember there should be excess developer or else uneven development
will take place. On some papers you can move the developer a few times,
but some papers do not take it well. This is fairly simple once you
practiced it. Let it sit for a minute or two and wash the pint with water
until the milkiness is gone, say 5 minutes. Clear the print in Na4EDTA
solution or Kodak clearing bath, wash some more. At this point you could
do gold or palladium toning. Residual silver is removed in 10% sodium
thiosulfate bath. Images do not bleach, but there is no reason to soak
them very long. This step might not even be necessary, but I have not
tested.
Marek
> I can't believe I would've missed that on the B&S webpage. Luckily I'm
> moving to Santa Fe in a few months so they'll literally be right around
> the corner from me. Hopefully that'll keep me a bit more up to date with
> them. A less expensive way to do platinum prints!!! Wonderful news to
> this photo-students ears! Thank you to both of you for the wonderful
> info. Marek please post details as I'm sure I would like to hear the
> details along with the rest of the list (we're all, after all, photo
> nerds at heart)! Many thanks, Amy Cutting
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pay" <payral@club-internet.fr>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Link to my Alt-Photos
>
>
> Nice pictures. I will be interested to receive more informations about
> your way on Satista prints.
>
> mmatusz@pdq.net a *crit :
>>
>> I cam up with a slightly different process that uses platinum
>> sensitizer and silver solution for development (no glycerine). The
>> amount of platinum varies from 1/4 to 1/16 of what you would use for
>> platinum print. There are two examples of prints on my alt web site
>> http://www.alternativephotography.com/marek_matusz.html
>> The description of prints on the site are reversed. The gold toned
>> print is pure black black. I am adding a few more prints, so you might
>> chek in a few days.
>> I would be happy to send details if anybody is interested.
>> Marek Matusz
>>
>> > This process was created by Willis when the platinum price was
>> getting high. It's an economic way to produce images in between
>> silver and platinum. Chemicals are the same as in pd/pt printing but
>> developer will be glycerin and silver nitrate. You will get much
>> more informations (technical & how to) from B & S website.
>> > I hope it will help
>> > --
>> > Ayral Philippe
>> >
>> > Tél/Fax: +33 (0)450 39 79 81
>> > http://perso.club-internet.fr/payral
>> > http://www.focale.ch
>> >
>> > Amy Cutting a *crit :
>> >>
>> >> Philippe,
>> >> I'm sorry, I haven't heard of satista prints before. Could you give
>> me a bit of an overview of the process?
>> >> Many thanks, Amy Cutting
>
> --
> Philippe Ayral
> 52, rue de Vallard
> 74240 Gaillard
> France
> Tél/Fax: +33 (0)450 39 79 81
> http://perso.club-internet.fr/payral
> http://www.focale.ch
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