From: Gordon J. Holtslander (holtsg@duke.usask.ca)
Date: 02/03/03-11:30:24 AM Z
Hi:
I haven't had the patience to read much of Koenig's book, which I am
borrowing from the library :) Its verrrrryyyy long on details.
>From everything else I've read, I think I'll try oil. I think the only
work with very volatile chemicals is involved with cleaning up - which can
be done outside - those volatile chemicals don't freeze - even in
Saskatoon :)
Ed Buffalo has good information, and John Barnier has written a good
chapter on it in "Coming into Focus". He goes into detial on how to
prepare the gelatin matrix, which appears to be the key.
One of the appealling things with oil is the ability to selectively ink
the print.
I've thought of some images where a lot of the print has absolutely
nothing - plain paper, and other parts completely falsely colored. Must
be from living on the prairies surrounded by vast expanses of nothing :)
I could do this with gum, but it would involve a _lot_ of masking.
On a related question, where do people buy gelatin - I want to try using a
hard gelation ( > 250 bloom) and wondering if there is some common
industry that uses this locally so I don't have to special order this.
Otherwise I'll use Knox from the grocery store and harden it.
Gord
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Judy Seigel wrote:
>
> On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Gordon J. Holtslander wrote:
> > I also have Koenig's book on Gumoil - which is supposed to give similar
> > results.
>
> Gord, there may be someone who has made a successful print with that
> process, but they're not mentioning it anywhere I've noticed. Koenig's
> genius is in fact publicity -- he had an article about that book in every
> photo publication in the known universe, and several in distant galaxies.
> But not complete. You had to buy the book.
>
> Since you have it, however, I'm curious about something....does he credit
> the actual originator of the process ?? (Mentioned in Kent Wade, BTW,
> before KK's book. I think it was a graduate thesis, or like that.)
>
> I've always meant to try oil... & I plan to, so why don't you lead the
> way? The downside is as I recall volatile solvents -- if your studio is
> near your living, as mine is -- VERY near. Meanwhile, you may not believe
> this, but gum bichromate will easily let you do area colors -- either
> brush out the color you don't want, or mask the area before coating with
> gum arabic, & dry... then coat gently so you don't pick it up. The
> emulsion, even if it's "exposed," will wash off over the "mask." Then dry,
> coat again with next color. Etc. That's somewhere in Post-Factory in more
> detail, maybe I hope in the index...
>
> (If you've seen Lyle Rexer's book, my "Kinky Tramps" was done that way --
> from a monochrome original. Actually it looks like a C-print in repro,
> because they cropped out the edges, which drove me crazy, but that's
> another topic... fact is, any multiple gum does area color easily enough.
> I made negs of different contrasts for Kinky, but that was as much to try
> imagesetter & digital negs as anything else. It's readily done with a
> single neg if it has a bit of range to spare.)
>
> cheers,
>
> Judy
>
>
>
>
> > > Has anyone
> used both processes? Any opinions on which one I should > attempt first?
> >
> > The reason I want to try these processes is the ability to ink different
> > parts of the print with diffirent colors. I have a few images just calling
> > out, begging for color, but I don't think hand coloring would do it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gord
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology
> > holtsg@duke.usask.ca 112 Science Place
> > http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsg University of Saskatchewan
> > Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
> > Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2
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> >
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Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology
holtsg@duke.usask.ca 112 Science Place
http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsg University of Saskatchewan
Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2
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