From: Steve Bell (veracity000@earthlink.net)
Date: 03/04/03-10:01:07 AM Z
can anyone reccommend a fix for this problem with gelatin size? i'm having
the fish eye problem something awful. it seems on my last print i was able
to coat over it with some tenacity, but when i cleared the print there was
a dark spot of pigment/gum over that spot. luckily when i took a brush to
it it mostly disappeared.
this problem comes from too much size? how much is too much size? my sizing
method is basically livick's, although i size both sides of the paper by
dipping the paper into the gelatin/glyoxal bath and then i hang it to dry.
that way there will be less subsquent curling of the paper (with both sides
sized).
so, what is too much size?
cheers,
Steve
> [Original Message]
> From: Jack Brubaker <jack@jackbrubaker.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Date: 3/4/2003 10:48:26 AM
> Subject: Re: gum printing, coping w/ too much size
>
> I have only done this with acrylic size so I can't comment on how it would
> work with other surfaces...
>
> > From: Judy Seigel <jseigel@panix.com>
> > Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> > Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 23:37:50 -0500 (EST)
> > To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> > Subject: Re: gum printing, coping w/ too much size
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Jack Brubaker wrote:
> >> got too much size. I did'nt realize the problem until I was painting
the the
> >> gum solution on the paper and noticed the fish-eyes forming in the
coating.
> >> In the past I've just done the best I could to smooth the gum with
repeated
> >> brushing as it dried and hoped for the best. In most cases if I've seen
> >> fish-eyes as I coated the gum would fall off during developement. This
time
> >> I used a small (1 1/2" square) cut-off of regular green kitchen
scotch-brite
> >> on the wet emulsion. It's small size didn't use up much gum. I rubbed
> >> gently, pushing the gum around until the sizing was scuffed enough to
stop
> >> the fish-eyes from forming, brushed the emulsion smooth, and hung the
paper
> >> up to dry. It printed fine.
> >
> > Hi Jack, now I've got two items from the super market to look for --
> > Scotch brite and Future. The trouble is our city supermarkets can be
> > woefully inadequate compared to a *real* American supermarket. (A friend
> > of mine buys a quart of Swanson chicken broth upstate for $1.29... we
have
> > only the "organic" kind, for $3.69. So who knows what I'll find.) So
far
> > I've treated the gum problem you describe with a couple of drops of 50%
> > Tween 20, which works very well. I'd rather do it without "additives,"
but
> > if you have an underneath coat that's a bit fragile -- wouldn't that
> > Scotch Brite be risky?
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Judy
--- Steve Bell
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