From: Nick Makris (nick@mcn.org)
Date: 03/04/03-01:06:07 PM Z
Lee/Joe,
You may have seen some of my posts that have asked for an answer to the
search for the Holy Grail of DCN's. The problem is that every attempt to
put black/gray inks on clear based film results in what Joe described as:
Handle Pictorico OHP with great care: the "emulsion" side scratches if
you look at it cross-eyed.
This pertains to virtually every combination of films and Black/Gray inks
that I have tested - I believe Sandy said he is getting good results with a
2200? and some proprietary Epson ink for that printer and there may be other
combinations that work, but none that are available for just any printer
that I am aware of, until recently.
I received the following reply from the folks at MIS recently which gives me
another hopeful avenue to explore.
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We do have a new ink, our Ultrachrome Photo Black, that should work. If you
would like for us to try it before you purchase some ink, you can send us a
few sheets of the Pictorico and we will try it for you.
Nick Makris wrote:
Hello,
Do you folks have/expect any Quad black inks for 1160 or 1520 for use with
Pictorico film? Up until this time, no black inks have completely dried on
Pictorico. Is this a problem that will ever be overcome?
Many thanks,
Nick
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I have asked them for a little more info and am awaiting their reply.......
N
----- Original Message -----
From: "H. Lee Pratt" <squnch@cox.net>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Digital Negative & Piezography NEWS
> Hello Joe Tait,
>
> It may have been my posting about digital negs with a reference to Dan
> Burkholder's site that you saw.
>
> Basically, I've started making DCNs (Digital Contact Negatives, as I
> think of them) using Piezography BW on an Epson 3000. The trick is to
> use Pictorico OHP Film for your film. The Epson film I tried did not
> work, although they may have changed since I tried it.
>
> I simply get my image tweaked in Photoshop until it looks right on the
> screen, invert it and print it. I've then been printing on Azo contact
> paper, #2 graded. The results are glorious. I haven't done a lot of
> these yet, but I'm convinced the basic method is sound.
>
> If you print to a continuous tone material like Azo or an enlarging
> paper, you won't need any of Dan's "warping" curves to suit your
> negative to lithographic film.
>
> Handle Pictorico OHP with great care: the "emulsion" side scratches if
> you look at it cross-eyed.
>
> Lee Pratt
>
> On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 10:36 AM, Joe Tait wrote:
>
> > I know others here use Piezography on Epsons to do B&W prints, but I
> > haven't
> > heard anything on using them for diginegs except a passing reference
> > on Dan
> > Burkholder's website (which was positive I recall). Anyone care to
> > share
> > experience?
> >
> > I am kind of excited at the possibility because Jon Cone today
> > announced a
> > system for Canon printers with "from the ground up" reformulated
> > PiezoTone inks
> > for Canon printers
> > (http://www.piezography.com/media/PMA-2003-Media-Kit.pdf).
> >
> > What sounds like exceptionally good news is that the inkset is
> > designed to be
> > able to print on glossy coated paper, which to me means a higher
> > likelihood of
> > compatibility with trans material. I have seen some Peizo prints and I
> > think
> > they look great and the _almost_ continous-tone was refreshing
> > compared to the
> > apparent dither and banding I have seen on all close examination of
> > any inkjet
> > print. I have seen that translate into prints with my initial trials
> > on using
> > spectral negs on a Canon S9000, so I am eagerly looking at this
> > potential
> > improvement.
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> >
> H. Lee Pratt
> Santa Barbara, CA 93108
> squnch@cox.net
> FAX: 805-565-1670
> VOICE: 805-565-1240
>
>
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