Re: Digital Negative & Piezography NEWS

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From: Jack Fulton (jefulton1@attbi.com)
Date: 03/07/03-05:52:00 PM Z


Nick, when you do hear back I am , in particular, greatly interested,
Certainly Dan uses the Epson 1280 but I wonder daily if the 2200 could do
the job . or, print on ANY other transparent (or a translucency which is
mighty near transparent like Pictorico)
Jack

> Lee/Joe,
>
> You may have seen some of my posts that have asked for an answer to the
> search for the Holy Grail of DCN's. The problem is that every attempt to
> put black/gray inks on clear based film results in what Joe described as:
>
> Handle Pictorico OHP with great care: the "emulsion" side scratches if
> you look at it cross-eyed.
>
> This pertains to virtually every combination of films and Black/Gray inks
> that I have tested - I believe Sandy said he is getting good results with a
> 2200? and some proprietary Epson ink for that printer and there may be other
> combinations that work, but none that are available for just any printer
> that I am aware of, until recently.
>
> I received the following reply from the folks at MIS recently which gives me
> another hopeful avenue to explore.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> We do have a new ink, our Ultrachrome Photo Black, that should work. If you
> would like for us to try it before you purchase some ink, you can send us a
> few sheets of the Pictorico and we will try it for you.
>
>
> Nick Makris wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Do you folks have/expect any Quad black inks for 1160 or 1520 for use with
> Pictorico film? Up until this time, no black inks have completely dried on
> Pictorico. Is this a problem that will ever be overcome?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Nick
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>
>
> I have asked them for a little more info and am awaiting their reply.......
>
>
> N
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "H. Lee Pratt" <squnch@cox.net>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Digital Negative & Piezography NEWS
>
>
>> Hello Joe Tait,
>>
>> It may have been my posting about digital negs with a reference to Dan
>> Burkholder's site that you saw.
>>
>> Basically, I've started making DCNs (Digital Contact Negatives, as I
>> think of them) using Piezography BW on an Epson 3000. The trick is to
>> use Pictorico OHP Film for your film. The Epson film I tried did not
>> work, although they may have changed since I tried it.
>>
>> I simply get my image tweaked in Photoshop until it looks right on the
>> screen, invert it and print it. I've then been printing on Azo contact
>> paper, #2 graded. The results are glorious. I haven't done a lot of
>> these yet, but I'm convinced the basic method is sound.
>>
>> If you print to a continuous tone material like Azo or an enlarging
>> paper, you won't need any of Dan's "warping" curves to suit your
>> negative to lithographic film.
>>
>> Handle Pictorico OHP with great care: the "emulsion" side scratches if
>> you look at it cross-eyed.
>>
>> Lee Pratt
>>
>> On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 10:36 AM, Joe Tait wrote:
>>
>>> I know others here use Piezography on Epsons to do B&W prints, but I
>>> haven't
>>> heard anything on using them for diginegs except a passing reference
>>> on Dan
>>> Burkholder's website (which was positive I recall). Anyone care to
>>> share
>>> experience?
>>>
>>> I am kind of excited at the possibility because Jon Cone today
>>> announced a
>>> system for Canon printers with "from the ground up" reformulated
>>> PiezoTone inks
>>> for Canon printers
>>> (http://www.piezography.com/media/PMA-2003-Media-Kit.pdf).
>>>
>>> What sounds like exceptionally good news is that the inkset is
>>> designed to be
>>> able to print on glossy coated paper, which to me means a higher
>>> likelihood of
>>> compatibility with trans material. I have seen some Peizo prints and I
>>> think
>>> they look great and the _almost_ continous-tone was refreshing
>>> compared to the
>>> apparent dither and banding I have seen on all close examination of
>>> any inkjet
>>> print. I have seen that translate into prints with my initial trials
>>> on using
>>> spectral negs on a Canon S9000, so I am eagerly looking at this
>>> potential
>>> improvement.
>>>
>>> -Joe
>>>
>>>
>> H. Lee Pratt
>> Santa Barbara, CA 93108
>> squnch@cox.net
>> FAX: 805-565-1670
>> VOICE: 805-565-1240
>>
>>
>
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