Re: When to tone?

Kate,
I had the same problem with a home made liquid emulsion. As best as I
could tell this relates to incomplete washing of thiosulfate. Brown stain
was always stronger when the emulsion was thicker. I ended up washing
prints for a very long time before toning. Perhaps the use of a basic
fixer (like photographers formulary TF4) instead of standard fixer would
help. I would also try Mr. Suzuki's suggestion of a basic wash (sodium
carbonate solution) after fixing. I know the pain, a perfectly good print
goes into the toning bath and comes out a disaster.

Marek
> I have a question on this topic - or almost on this topic. I've been
> selenium toning prints in tetenal "work", and have had some problems with:
> a) no tonal change or no discernable tonal change (selenium diluted 1:3)
> b) odd staining in some portions of some prints but no others, at the same
> dilution. These stains are quite dark brown.
>
> (a) seems batch related and I wonder if anyone else has had problems with
> "work"or any other liquid emulsion.
> Has anyone else tones liquid emulsion prints and with what results??.
>
> (b) is bloody annoying and has just ruined one of my best prints.....I am
> not going to tone any more for colour change with this emulsion.
>
> I now realise that problems I had earlier this year which I thought were
> related to possible contamination by other students were probably due to
> some other factor.
>
> I'm using Arches Aquarelle paper, 300gsm, unsized as this paper is
> tub-sized anyway, processing in 1+15 Neutol NE, using water for stop and
> fixing in two consecutive baths of half strength standard fix. I then
> wash
> the prints, give a 2 min bath in Kodak hypo clearing solution followed by
> a
> half-hour wash. I dried the prints and l;eft them for a few days, then
> toned
> after a 10 min soak. I've had the same problem with Saunders Waterford
> paper
> as well.
>
> I'd appreciate your input.
>
> Kate Mahoney
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Neilsen" <e.neilsen@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:17 PM
> Subject: RE: When to tone?
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>> As others have mentioned, I tone most prints after a good wash a dry,
> after
>> drying and with prints grouped together. I have seen color shifts in
>> selenium toned prints, but it seems to mostly be due to incomplete
> washing.
>> A bit more red appears in those prints.
>>
>> Eric Neilsen Photography
>> 4101 Commerce Street
>> Suite 9
>> Dallas, TX 75226
>> http://e.neilsen.home.att.net
>> http://ericneilsenphotography.com
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:35 PM
>> > To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>> > Subject: When to tone?
>> >
>> > Is there any literature that compares the effectiveness of toning
>> > silver prints with either selenium or polysulfide during processing,
>> > while the print is still wet, as opposed to drying them first and
>> > toning several days or weeks later?
>> >
>> > Sandy King
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Received on Thu Nov 13 08:58:57 2003