Re: extremely off topic-Xrays

From: bobkiss@caribsurf.com
Date: 11/20/03-03:49:12 PM Z
Message-id: <64779b713cfb2c16.3cfb2c1664779b71@caribsurf.com>

Kris writes," Although--and not to be inhuman--a thin enough slice of
tissue might make an interesting photogrammed image... all ethics
aside, of course."
     My response to the list regarding this is, "We've created a
MONTHDA!" (Thanks, Mr. Karloff) ;-))
      CHEERS!
         BOB

----- Original Message -----
From: Kris Erickson <kris.erickson@utoronto.ca>
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:13 am
Subject: Re: extremely off topic-Xrays

> !!
> That's very interesting info!
>
> > Do a bit of search on the web and think how you want your
> > brain to be sliced.
>
> Now, when you say "sliced"....
> You don't mean....
> Physically....
> <gulp>
> ;-)
> Although--and not to be inhuman--a thin enough slice of tissue
> might
> make an interesting photogrammed image... all ethics aside, of course
>
> k
>
>
>
> Ryuji Suzuki wrote:
>
> > From: Gumprint@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: extremely off topic-Xrays
> > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:27:16 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >
> >>Where I live (greater Metro D.C.) the XRays are the property of the
> >>physician who orders it, despite it being of you.
> >
> >
> > I don't know about difference across states, etc. but this is partly
> > the policy of the doctor, the hospital and the imaging center. My
> > neurologist likes to send patients to an imaging center where the
> > doctor could order duplicate films, and she also said some other
> > imaging centers don't do that. But actually there's a way to get
> this> all doen for free.
> >
> > But if you want to get your MRI scans of brain and skull, go
> find a
> > newspaper, subway advertisement, free paper classified, craigslist,
> > whatever and find all sorts of brain imaging studies. The best
> is to
> > find a PhD student in neuroscience, psychology, whatever related
> > field. They like to have you sit in the machine while you hear
> > strange sounds or you count something or something simple, and they
> > like to pay you some small amount of cash. Details vary from
> study to
> > study but you contribute to scientific knowledge that may find some
> > use for human health decades later, you get money to buy a brick of
> > film, and if asked nicely, they'll probably burn a CD-ROM of TIFF
> > images. Do a bit of search on the web and think how you want your
> > brain to be sliced. Transverse, parasagittal, coronal are
> standard but
> > they tend to slice on a non-standard plane that includes all brain
> > structures of their interest. Those studies are also subject to
> > privacy regulations but you sign on the informed consent form
> and they
> > shouldn't be too uptight about it, especially if you promise to
> send a
> > few of your friends for the study. Anatomical studies are
> probably the
> > best because they should be getting high res scans... but dont
> > complain me or them if you don't get the kind of slices you want
> -
> > they may not gather the picture you want. (Some studies actually
> > advertise the TIFF image in CD-ROM as a part of the compensation!)
> >
> > If you like true x-ray, you probably need some clinically legitimate
> > reason and a doctor who doesn't mind extra trouble. Scientific
> studies> use mostly MRI, because it uses no radiation or
> radioactive material
> > and allows more functional investigation... making PET, CT,
> > etc. rather obsolete. But you can get MRI scans that look
> similar to
> > x-ray if you ask for the image "weighted" that way.
> >
> > --
> > Ryuji Suzuki
> > "Reality has always had too many heads." (Bob Dylan, Cold Irons
> Bound, 1997)
>
>
Received on Thu Nov 20 15:58:35 2003

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