From: Greg Schmitz (gws1@columbia.edu)
Date: 10/21/03-02:06:42 AM Z
Whoa. I don't get it - are you so thin skinned? What's the problem -
should we all be kissy face and "nice nice" here at the expense of
legitimate criticism? I tried to look at the site (promoted here on
the list) using a very common operating system, MS-Windows98se, with 3
commonly used browsers on a high speed connection and the site didn't
work on this it - and - it would appear that I'm not alone. Simple as
that.
I then went on, I thought clearly, to outline my thoughts on 3rd party
software from commercial vendors used to create websites. I noted that
Galina's website did not work well with my setup and then in a general way
voiced my criticism of web design issues - in general - without
criticizing the design of Galina's site (I saw enough of it to say that I
thought it was an interesting concept). FWIW it's not clear how much of
the design is hers since she credits an outside organization for the
design of the site, perhaps she'll let us know.
Put on your armor and join the real world folks.
-greg schmitz <gws1@columbia.edu>
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Kerik Kouklis wrote:
> I'm with you, Tom. I'm on a 3-yr old Windows XP PC with IE6 and Opera 7
> browsers and DSL. No problems with Galina's site whatsoever. The pages and
> images loaded quickly and I liked the music. I appreciate her originality!
> Seems some folks can only criticize harshly, no matter the topic, and take
> things way too personally. Just a pattern I've noticed... It's sad to see
> this list degrade the way it has over the last year or two, in my opinion.
>
> Kerik
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Ferguson
> > Subject: Re: Galina's website
> >
> >
> > Well said, we've become a rather intolerant bunch lately! Never mind
> > Sally Mann and her kids, we need to save the world from imaginative WWW
> > programing! By the way, I own two of Mann's prints, and consider them
> > wonderful.
> >
> > I had no troubles with Galina's site (Mac OSX on a DSL modem and Safari
> > browser). If anyone has a problem accessing her site, a quiet and
> > personal note to the site owner would be polite and kind.
> >
> > On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 11:22 PM, Ian Greant wrote:
> >
> > > ahhh the joys of digital design. What looks good and works on the
> > > designers system and maybe even her friends systems can crash any
> > > number of other people's computers. It's a hard fact that the more
> > > tech you put into your site the more troubleshooting you have to do
> > > afterwards. Merely releasing your new site into the wild on creation
> > > is usually a recipe for disaster. I should know.. experience is a
> > > harsh teacher. :)
> > >
> > > However I do think it's a bit far fetched to call someone's hard work
> > > "rude" I highly doubt Galina spent many hours designing her site just
> > > so she could crash other people computers. Heck, one page with a tiny
> > > bit of code could do that a lot easier and more reliably ;)
> > >
> > > Finally. Design is purely a personal choice. Currently I'd never
> > > consider putting music on my web site or making frames for my art with
> > > toys and dolls cast into them... but I admire Galina for following
> > > through on what she thinks represents her the best.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ian
>
>
>
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