Re: Inkjet Transparencies Scratching

Sandy,

Weren't we talking about the 7600 originally? That was the printer I was
referring to.........

Not the C84.

I thought it was you that said the 7600 and the 2200 use the same inks.

Sorry for any confusion.

Nick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy King" <sanking@clemson.edu>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Inkjet Transparencies Scratching

> Nick,
>
> The Epson 2200 used the Ultrachrome pigmented ink set and the C-84
> Dura-Brite pigmented inks. The Dura-Brites are more vivid than the
> Ultrachrome inks and prints from the C-84 have more saturated colors.
> The Dura-Brite inks also absorb more UV light than the Ultrachrome
> set, which is why they give more contrasty negatives, as Chris
> observed.
>
> The C-84 is really a great little printer for the money and is
> capable of making outstanding negatives on Pictorico for alternative
> processes, though with the caveat that in my initial work with it the
> negatives appear to be slightly grainer than those made with the 2200.
>
> Sandy King
>
>
>
>
> >Well, the thought came to mind that Sandy is presumably using the same
inks
> >successfully in a somewhat smaller printer. If that's true, ie, the inks
> >are the same (or were from the factory) and the substrate is the same,
then
> >it may be the inks have been changed.
> >
> >Just a thought.
> >
> >n
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jon Lybrook" <jon@terabear.com>
> >To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 10:40 AM
> >Subject: Re: Inkjet Transparencies Scratching
> >
> >
> >> Hi Nick,
> >>
> >> Are you saying to ask them if the carts are original that came with
the
> >> printer, or just to ask if they are OEM inks?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your insight.
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> At 07:32 AM 7/10/2004, you wrote:
> >> >Jon, you might check with the owner of the 7600 to see if they are
still
> >> >using the original factory inks. This problem you describe is one of
the
> >> >very reasons I have halted my digital neg search.
> >> >
> >> >Nick
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Jon Lybrook" <jon@terabear.com>
> >> >To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> >> >Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:41 PM
> >> >Subject: RE: Inkjet Transparencies Scratching
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > I should say 'taken off', not lifted off. The transparency was
plenty
> >> >dry.
> >> > >
> >> > > At 10:37 PM 7/9/2004, Jon Lybrook wrote:
> >> > > >Good advice, however, the scratches are happening through the
> >handling of
> >> > > >the transparencies, not coming off the printer. I'm generally
pretty
> >> > > >careful, but simply making test strips (on polymer plates under a
> >vacuum
> >> > > >frame) is resulting in scratches where the ink has been lifted
off
> >where
> >> > > >the plate had been in contact with the transparency.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Jon
> >> > > >
> >> > > >At 09:54 PM 7/9/2004, Rocky Boudreaux wrote:
> >> > > >>I'm not using the roll stuff but on regular Pictorico sheets II
do
> >> >sometimes
> >> > > >>see, however they are on the uncoated side of the film and do
not
> >show
> >> >up in
> >> > > >>the final print.
> >> > > >>To reduce these I put a piece of plain paper along with the
> >Pictorico in
> >> >the
> >> > > >>loading area and have a blank piece of paper in the out put
tray.
> >> > > >>This gives the Pictorico a nice smooth surface to ride on as it
goes
> >> >through
> >> > > >>the printer and has reduced the scratches.
> >> > > >>I didn't think the plastic surface was that rough but having
added
> >the
> >> >plain
> >> > > >>paper reduced the scratching considerably.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>Rocky
> >> > > >>Houston
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >>From: Jon Lybrook [mailto:jon@terabear.com]
> >> > > >>Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:04 PM
> >> > > >>To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca;
> >> >alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> >> > > >>Subject: Re: Inkjet Transparencies Scratching
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>It's a reasonable assertion.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>I've not had any problem with scratching in the past. I've not
had
> >any
> >> > > >>output from a 7600 either.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>I assume you read the Pictorico manager's assertion reposted on
this
> >> >list
> >> > > >>that the stock is the same, with the exception of a very slight
> >decrease
> >> >in
> >> > > >>coating, which he claimed would make no difference. This could
be
> >the
> >> > > >>difference resulting in scratching. The stock looks and feels
the
> >same
> >> >as
> >> > > >>the stuff I was buying with Pictorico on the label though.
> > > > > >>
> >> > > >>Anyone else using AccuArt2 on a roll having this problem?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>Jon
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>At 08:01 PM 7/9/2004, Sandy King wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> >Hi Jon,
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >I have not had any problem with scratching or abrasion in
making
> >> >inkjet
> >> > > >> >negatives on Pictorio with the Epson 2000P, 2200 and C-84. I
> >simply
> >> >handle
> >> > > >> >the negatives with reasonable care and have never had a
problem.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >Since the Epson 7600 is supposed to use the same inks as the
2200
> >I am
> >> > > >> >wondering if perhaps the AccuArt2 material is not Pictorico?
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >Sandy King
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >>Never got a response on this, so I'm trying again.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>Does anybody do any post-printing techniques to their inkjet
negs
> >to
> >> > > >> >>increase the durability and prevent scratching? A (non-UV
> >> >Inhibiting)
> >> > > >> >>spray of some sort maybe?
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>Thanks,
> >> > > >> >>Jon
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >>At 07:50 PM 7/7/2004, Jon Lybrook wrote:
> >> > > >> >>>I've noticed the Pictorico (now AccuArt2) transparencies
I've
> >been
> >> > > >> >>>getting from the Epson 7600 my friends have are very fragile
and
> >> >scratch
> >> > > >> >>>way-easily. Are there any protective coatings or post
printing
> >> > > >> >>>procedures for making them a little more durable?
> >> > > >> >>>
> >> > > >> >>>TIA,
> >> > > >> >>>Jon
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Received on Sat Jul 10 15:05:01 2004