Re: Got it !! Re: help identifying a book

Hi all,
      You got it, Dennis!
     They were from Hamburg, talked about a fair amount in the old lit;
learned gum from Kuhn, did what Kuhn called "screaming colors"...but they
did male nudes :). And colored gums...
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "DENNIS KLINKER" <dennis@klink47.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Got it !! Re: help identifying a book

> Judy i think Chris is refering to the Brothers HofmeisterTheodor and Oscar
> who produced some exquisite Gum prints in the early 1900s . I recently
> obtained a book in German from an exhibition called "Russian and German
art
> photography in 1900" The photographs of Sergei Lobovikov and The brothers
> Hofmeister the book is called Meisterwerk 1999 ISBN 3-7913-2234-6 this
book
> contains some wonderful Gum and Bromoil images and i obtained it from Mike
> Wells a photobook dealer in London.Hope this helps Dennis Klinker
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Cc: <alt-photo-process-error@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Got it !! Re: help identifying a book
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Christina Z. Anderson wrote:
> >
> > > Yes I would like the book; I am much interested in multiple editions
of
> the
> > > same author to see how the process changed thru time.
> >
> > My sense of the Gassan book is that the changes are as much due to
growing
> > expertise in writing a text as anything else... Nowadays alt-text
writers
> > have dozens of models to copy -- or not copy. Gassan's *second* edition
> > was 1971. I can't think of any book with these processes (except
> > Anderson!) before him. And of course a book without an index is
> > unthinkable today.
> >
> > > Judy: Paul Anderson in one book talks about having a--what I
> > > calculated--quart and a half of gum solution preserved perfectly for
16
> > > years in one book, and then in another book 4 years later he talks
about
> > > having a gum solution 18 years. I wonder, does the guy ever gum
print??
> Or
> >
> > As I've said on this list, also in P-F #9 (p. 48): Anderson's archive
at
> > the Center for Creative photography has 481 prints, of which only 14 are
> > gums. Others of his cohort were far more accomplished and sophisticated
> > gum printers, but they didn't have the *system* that impressed Henney &
> > Dudley (who said they aimed for the authority of "an engineering
> > handbook." Anderson was a former engineer.)
> >
> > > did he just mix up oodles at once and had a leftover supply? I went
> thru a
> > > liter of gum this semester alone! And then he originally says that
all
> >
> > His prints were smaller than yours, as I recall mostly 8x10 inches, and
14
> > prints at 8x10 when you're using 3 parts am di solution to one part gum
> > don't take a lot of gum.
> >
> > > prints can be had in 4-6 coats, and then modifies that to 5-8...this
> kind of
> >
> > That's all blowing air anyway .. as I recall his 1935 book says 3
coats --
> > but others said two, Puyo and Demachy said one.
> >
> > > stuff interests me, why changes might have occurred. Also in when gum
> went
> > > from "bi" to "di" and other such things.
> >
> > I believe the chemists said "di", the terminology changed (when? July
18,
> > 1931??) but gum printers seemed not to care... Most of the gum tracts
did
> > and I believe still do say "bi."
> >
> > > One more thing about research--there are two books at the Harry Ransom
> > > center I want: Hofmeister wrote a book on gum and so did Puyo. Harry
> > > Ransom Center in Austin will NOT send the books to Clemson for my use
> > > (understandable), nor xerox the books in entirety due to copyright
> > > restrictions. These books are 100 years old--copyright??!!! One is in
> > > French, which I can read; the other is German, which I can't. I can't
> send
> > > my German translator to Austin for a vacation! I am quite bummed....I
> wish
> > > there were someone I knew there who was German....
> > > Chris
> >
> > Ah Chris -- you are so spoiled. Do you have any idea how fabulous your
> > library resources have been !!!??? (as I understand it, both Clemson AND
> > Minnesota.) Who, by the way, is this Hofmeister?? Have you seen the
book
> > Puyo wrote with Demachy? (It may be similar to his solo book.)
> >
> > Judy
>
Received on Wed Jun 9 18:05:59 2004