RE: VanDyke Brown

Don,
   What dilution and timing did you use for this ?
Roy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Don Bryant <dstevenbryant@mindspring.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 19:21:18 -0400
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: RE: VanDyke Brown

> Jon,
>
> I've used Ilford WT MG IV fiber toned in selenium and I don't think the look
> of a VDB is quite comparable.
>
> For a comparison look at this photo printed on Ilford WTMGIV toned in
> selenium:
>
> http://www.apgphoto.org/about/portfolio2001/bryant.shtml
>
> and compare it to these VDBs printed by Wynn White:
>
> http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Vandyke/vandyke.html
>
> IMO, the highlights in Ilford paper tend to show the effects of the toner
> where as the VDB highlights tend to show the color of the paper base. Of
> course the warm tones are a different color also.
>
> My 2 cents,
>
> Don Bryant
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Danforth [mailto:jdanforth@sc.rr.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:29 PM
> > To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> > Subject: Re: VanDyke Brown
> >
> > Since we're on the subject of VDBs, can I ask those of you that have seen
> > them in person to compare them to the look of something that I've been
> > making lately? I really like the look of Ilford warmtone fibre after
> > being
> > toned in Selenium for 5 minutes. I find that the blacks take on a dark
> > chocolate look. Do VDBs have a similar look? What are the differences?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sandy King" <sanking@clemson.edu>
> > To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: VanDyke Brown
> >
> >
> > >
> > > This is pretty common. All of my VDB solutions have plated, though I
> > > think it took quite a bit longer than two weeks. But if if prints ok
> > > then it is ok and in my experience the plating has not seemed to
> > > detract from printing qualities.
> > >
> > > Sandy King
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hello Everyone,
> > > >I have a bottle of VanDyke solution that is plating out the silver
> > > >to the inside of the bottle and also to the eyedropper. The solution
> > > >was made approximately two weeks ago and set aside to "ripen". The
> > > >solution seems to print okay, but I'm concerned that I maybe loosing
> > > >some denisity due to the loss of silver from solution. I don't
> > > >remember the solutions plating out in the past, though it's been
> > > >awhile.
> > > >The solution was from the traditional formula. Has anyone ever
> > > >encountered this before and know the reason for it?
> > > >
> > > >Warm Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Jonathon Russell
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >"Expose for the secrets,
> > > > Develop for the surprises!"
> > >
>
>
>

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