Dilution of KST was 1:4. In fresh toner the toning is complete in about 5 to 7 minutes at room temp. The paper will split tone very easily in this toner. You may wish to dilute the toner much more to control the split easier. The toning almost becomes infectious after it begins.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: roy beecher <vintage.florals@operamail.com>
Sent: May 12, 2004 12:52 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: RE: VanDyke Brown
Don,
What dilution and timing did you use for this ?
Roy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Bryant <dstevenbryant@mindspring.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 19:21:18 -0400
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: RE: VanDyke Brown
> Jon,
>
> I've used Ilford WT MG IV fiber toned in selenium and I don't think the look
> of a VDB is quite comparable.
>
> For a comparison look at this photo printed on Ilford WTMGIV toned in
> selenium:
>
> http://www.apgphoto.org/about/portfolio2001/bryant.shtml
>
> and compare it to these VDBs printed by Wynn White:
>
> http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Vandyke/vandyke.html
>
> IMO, the highlights in Ilford paper tend to show the effects of the toner
> where as the VDB highlights tend to show the color of the paper base. Of
> course the warm tones are a different color also.
>
> My 2 cents,
>
> Don Bryant
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Danforth [mailto:jdanforth@sc.rr.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:29 PM
> > To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> > Subject: Re: VanDyke Brown
> >
> > Since we're on the subject of VDBs, can I ask those of you that have seen
> > them in person to compare them to the look of something that I've been
> > making lately? I really like the look of Ilford warmtone fibre after
> > being
> > toned in Selenium for 5 minutes. I find that the blacks take on a dark
> > chocolate look. Do VDBs have a similar look? What are the differences?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sandy King" <sanking@clemson.edu>
> > To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: VanDyke Brown
> >
> >
> > >
> > > This is pretty common. All of my VDB solutions have plated, though I
> > > think it took quite a bit longer than two weeks. But if if prints ok
> > > then it is ok and in my experience the plating has not seemed to
> > > detract from printing qualities.
> > >
> > > Sandy King
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hello Everyone,
> > > >I have a bottle of VanDyke solution that is plating out the silver
> > > >to the inside of the bottle and also to the eyedropper. The solution
> > > >was made approximately two weeks ago and set aside to "ripen". The
> > > >solution seems to print okay, but I'm concerned that I maybe loosing
> > > >some denisity due to the loss of silver from solution. I don't
> > > >remember the solutions plating out in the past, though it's been
> > > >awhile.
> > > >The solution was from the traditional formula. Has anyone ever
> > > >encountered this before and know the reason for it?
> > > >
> > > >Warm Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Jonathon Russell
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >"Expose for the secrets,
> > > > Develop for the surprises!"
> > >
>
>
>
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