Re: Problem with Ultrafine Clear Film

From: Sandy King ^lt;sanking@clemson.edu>
Date: 05/30/04-01:20:08 PM Z
Message-id: <a06020400bcdfe3d6885f@[192.168.0.2]>

I use the Epson 2000P and not the 2200 but my experience is the same
as that of Mike. The pigmented ink on the surface of Pictorico OHP is
very resistant to abrasion and quite resistant to water, even hot
water.

Sandy King

>I'm not sure which printer you are using, but with the Epson 2200 printer
>and standard inks my experience is exactly the opposite. Using Pictorico
>OHP I never have issues with scratched emulsion, and I have been rather
>harsh with the negatives at times. I also tested one of the pictorico
>negatives by dragging a wet finger across the emulsion, and there was no ink
>smearing.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Loris Medici" <loris_medici@yahoo.com>
>To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
>Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 10:14 AM
>Subject: Re: Problem with Ultrafine Clear Film
>
>
>>
>> Mike, in my experience UCF is much better than Pictorico in terms of
>> scratching (I'm using pigmented quadtone inks). With Pictorico even a very
>> light touch or a minute amount of dampness in sensitizer (very likely to
>> happen with not dried enough cyanoype sensitized paper for instance) is
>> sufficient to wipe pigment ink off the substrate, with UCF this was not
>the
>> case: I couldn't damage the image even by strongly scrubbing with my
>thumb -
>> when I did so, very little ink left the substrate; leaving barely
>> perceptible empty dots far to each others... like some sort of flaking).
>> Moreover, UCF is 1/2 stop faster than Pictorico (for Cyanotype - I yet
>have
>> to test speed with Van Dyke and Kallitype) and this is very nice to me!
>>
>> You're probably printing on the wrong side; in my sample (100 pieces of
>> 11x17") the coating is on the convex side - determining the coated side is
>> easy, slightly wet the tip of your finger and rub gently on one side. If
>it
>> sticks and leaves a smudge/mark then this is the coated side, if it slides
>> without difficulty and doesn't leave a mark then it's the back side.
>>
>> I don't know about the stripes; I don't have these... but if you continue
>to
>> have them exactly the same way after rotating the substrate then it's
>> probably something about the paper rollers (damaging the coating and/or
>> spreading something onto the film?)... Hope you'll overcome this problem -
>
>> ask support from both Photo Warehouse and Epson.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Loris.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mike Klemmer
>> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 4:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: Problem with Ultrafine Clear Film
>>
>>
>> I printed out another sample with the media rotated 90 degrees, and got an
>> identical pattern. This time I also got a bunch of random ink smears as
>> well.
>>
>> Roller marks seem to be the culprit here. I then used a wet finger to
>> double check that I had printed on the right side. In the process I
>noticed
>> that the wet finger wiped the printed ink right off the substrate! Also
>> this film it is extremely sensitive to scratching like I've never seen on
>> Pictorico.
>>
>> Someone double check me that I have the right film here. I am using the
>> Ultrafine Inkjet Crystal Clear 4mil overlay film. Cat# 758-11172
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Don Bryant
>> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 11:23 PM
>> Subject: RE: Problem with Ultrafine Clear Film
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> One more thought, rotate the U.C.F. 90 degrees and make another print. If
>> the direction of the stripes rotate I would definitely say you have
>> defective material.
>>
>> Don Bryant
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Mike Klemmer [mailto:mklemmer@comcast.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 11:37 PM
>> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>> Subject: Problem with Ultrafine Clear Film
>>
>> I printed some test curves onto U.C.F. that I recently purchased, Epson
>> 2200 printer. I got some weird, splotchy lines on the film. I then
>printed
>> the same image onto paper to make sure it wasn't a printer
>> problem....everything A-OK there. I printed again on the U.C.F. - same
> > exact problem.
>>
>> You can see a sample of the problem here:
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2400372
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael Klemmer
>>
>>
Received on Sun May 30 13:26:38 2004

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