Re: Réf. : Re: tooth and no tooth

Hi Philippe,
It's a beautiful color print on alluminum.
By the way, how do I get your book? Do you get visa u other major cards?
I have problems getting euros.
Giovanni

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> Photography on alluminium is easy
> My carbon on alluminium
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> Best regards
>
> Philippe
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> De : alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> Date : Saturday, November 13, 2004 19:30:54
> A : alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> Sujet : Re: tooth and no tooth
>
> Sorry to disagree with you.
> Prints on alluminum are great.
> Just read Photo-Imaging by Jill Enfield and whatever she does it applies
to
> gum as well.
> Giovanni
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> >
> > > gdimase@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >> Glass and alluminum are perfectly clean without any "tooth" and you
can
> > >> print perfectly on them, right?
> >
> > I haven't heard of anyone who can print gum on a hard surface without a
> > substrate or some kind of roughing up. If I remember correctly, Galina
> > uses gelatin.
> >
> > And I daresay Christopher James is right about ways to get "tooth" on
> > those impervious materials... HOWEVER, I think the business about
"tooth"
> > being needed on paper, needs some qualification: It's quite possible to
> > make a reasonable gum print on a smooth paper (I've used for instance a
> > Strathmore plate finish drawing paper). Odds are the highlights will
wash
> > off, so unless you take steps it won't be full tonal scale -- but
probably
> > about 75% of the image will arrive.
> >
> > And, (drum roll please) the story about gum hanging onto the tooth in
> > *paper* is another one of those Anderson fairy tales... exactly like the
> > great GPR test (oops I said it again). Anderson decided it was *logical*
> > and never checked it against a control, drew this scientific-looking
> > diagram, which in due course was copied from Dudley & Henney into
Keepers
> > of Light & I don't remember where else, but I've seen it here or there.
> >
> > I don't think this is one of the great mysteries of photography either:
On
> > paper, even with no tooth, the gum solution soaks into the paper fibers,
> > and so, instead of sliding off (as it would from a hard, entirely
> > non-absorbent surface) it makes a print. In fact I think a pretty fair
> > print with some rudimentary highlights can be gotten -- it's years since
I
> > tested it and there seemed little reason to continue -- but, facts is
> > facts.
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> >
>
> .
>
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