Re: Canson Fonteney and gum printing

From: Kees Brandenburg ^lt;ctb@zeelandnet.nl>
Date: 11/07/05-08:23:21 AM Z
Message-id: <436F6359.2070909@zeelandnet.nl>

mmm.... this looks like a different paper. The old Fontenay (of 3+ years
ago) came in various surfaces. Maybe this is still true for the small
sizes? I'm using the 300 grams 56x76 cm sheets. I buy them here:

http://www.vanbeekart.nl/index.html?target=dept_104.html&lang=nl

-kees

Breukel, C. (HKG) wrote:

>Hi Kees,
>
>Thanks for the fast reply, did you observe differences between the coarse grain and the fine grain version? (see:
>
>http://www.vivid-colours.co.uk/sess/utn;jsessionid=15436f433974379/shopdata/0010_Papers/0020_Canson/product_overview.shopscript
>
>
>I'll try to resize a sheet,
>
>Best,
>
>Cor
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Kees Brandenburg [mailto:ctb@zeelandnet.nl]
>>Sent: maandag 7 november 2005 14:39
>>To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>>Subject: Re: Canson Fonteney and gum printing
>>
>>
>>Hello Cor,
>>Fontenay is a sold as a 'hybrid' surfaced paper, one side somewhat
>>smooth the other side rough. I allways print on the smooth side.
>>I'm using fontenay quit often, also in my workshops. I buy
>>50-100 sheets
>>at once so my batch might be a bit older than yours and I
>>don't know if
>>it has changed. I allways preshrink and gelatin/glyoxal size.
>>Take care
>>the preshrinking water is not too hot (keep it under 40 degrees C)
>>otherwise the factury sizing comes of as a slimy substance. This also
>>happens when you keep it in the water overnight.
>>
>>What you discribe sounds like a form of abrasion or a problem
>>with the
>>internal sizing. I think a hardened gelatin size will solve
>>your problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>Breukel, C. (HKG) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>In the past I did some modest gum printing on Canson
>>>
>>>
>>Fonteny, I use the smooth (back?) side not the rough textured
>>side, and I have been quite happy with the results.
>>
>>
>>>Recently I bought a few sheets to make some gum prints, but
>>>
>>>
>>this time I ran into a problem: After 4 coats the texture of
>>the paper started to "raise"(for lack of a better
>>description, as if the paper is showing through te gum
>>layer), obscuring details in esp. the shadow regions. Can't
>>say that I like that effect.
>>
>>
>>>AFAIK I did not coat too violent with the foam brush, and I
>>>
>>>
>>assume that it's perhaps inherent to the newer batch I bought
>>(one thing to check though is that there seems to be 2
>>different versions of of Fonteney: coarse and fine grain,
>>perhaps that can explain why I did not see this effect in the past).
>>
>>
>>>I did not pre-shrink and size (these are 4*5 only), but
>>>
>>>
>>would adding a extra gelatine size reduce this effect?
>>
>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Bezt,
>>>
>>>Cor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Received on Mon Nov 7 08:23:35 2005

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