Re: Let's switch the New Orleans controversy to glut now please...

Hi Judy!
No, the print that didn't speckle was still developed. With Mark Nelson's
PDN system I have not been spray developing because I can't control that
variable well enough to get justifiable comparisons, so I have been
still-developing for 30 minutes.

The Rives speckled tremendously (Mark brought the test wedgies home with him
and Jane), and after a couple hours of still-developing I did spray it and
the stain never disappeared.

I guess what it proves to me is that with the same neg, the same exposure
time, the same development variable, that the chances of getting
speckling/staining on Rives is much greater than on Fabriano--maybe due to
the paper or the sizing. However, I got speckling on Fabriano when I sized
with gly and NEVER with glut.

You can get your 2.5% hardener from, I think as a poster said a while back,
the Maco Black Magic Hardener. At least, that is what I am assuming, and I
have an email into Maco for an MSDS sheet. Was it Hamish who talked about
it??? Does anyone have a URL to the hardener MSDS???
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
To: "Alt list" <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Let's switch the New Orleans controversy to glut now please...

>
>> I only share this because I think that most beginner gummists probably
>> fail because they use the wrong hardener/paper combo. If speckling is
>> your problem, switch to Fabriano AEW hot pressed (or soft or cold) and
>> glut. I have sized FAEW with gly and it speckles with stain, too, so my
>> bet is laid on glyoxal as a major speckle culprit.
>
> Chris, while it's true my students did get speckling on papers hardened
> with gly, it also happened (under I assume similar circumstances) on paper
> hardened with formaldehyde, which was our hardener until, well, I don't
> recall the date, but until the mid-1990s.
>
> Which is not to say glut isn't a better size (& I'd like to try it --
> where do you get yours?), but you're changing papers, & a "test" that
> changes variables, especially paper, leaves too much hanging (IMO).
>
> I've meant to mention also, speaking of changing variables, that if you
> developed the print with the boiled gelatin that you said *didn't*
> speckle, with your usual spray bottle method -- that also is not the same
> as *my* prints that speckled, although some of the student speckles were
> sprayed, some still developed.
>
> Judy
>
>
>>
>> If gly doesn't speckle for you, and you're completely perfect in your gum
>> practice, disregard.
>>
>> The only reason I posted this is because I have recently had questions
>> about glut OFFLIST and felt it would be beneficial to share the info with
>> more than a few.
>>
>> If someone out there has used glut with problems, please do share so as
>> to balance my enthusiasm for the stuff. We know of two who have had
>> severe reactions to glut with headaches and dizziness and such. Anyone
>> else? Anyone use Maco hardener or the Black Magic hardener for their glut
>> source yet? Is Black Magic glut, too??
>>
>> So THERE. Let's get back to arguing about something alt related now.
>> Chris
>>
Received on Fri Sep 2 13:05:29 2005