Re: Lumin prints tests

I myself have been making these Lumen Prints for the past seven or eight
months now, and just wanted to post some of my own findings.
As those of you that are making these prints are finding, different papers
do different things, as well as length of exposure, plant, even where on the
planet you are (angle of the sun effects exposures, even though I may just
be paranoid about that) etc... Lots of different elements have different
effects on the results of these prints. Some are very subtle, while others
are very obvious.
I just fix mine out, without toning. The toners bleach out whatever colors
the moisture of the plant created with the paper. I found that a rapid fixer
can also reduce what effect the plants have on the paper. My best prints, or
the ones I like the most, were all fixed out in a non-rapid fixer. I've used
TF-4 fixer from Photographer's Formulary (which IS a rapid fixer), Ilford
Rapid Fixer (which, as the name denotes, is, surprise, surprise a rapid
fixer) and Kodak's fixer (the mfr number from B & H is Mfr # 1971753). This
is an instance where results are subtle, but as I said before, I like the
prints that have been fixed in a non-rapid fixer. Colors seem a little
snappier.

Andy, Idaho

On 9/6/05, George L Smyth <glsmyth@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I should have tried some Forte during my tests this weekend. Forte accepts
> toner better than any paper I know of. I'll have to give this a shot soon.
>
> I found Ilford WT to give nice colors, but also lose them after fixing and
> toning. I am not sure if there is a way to keep them or not. Also, I have
> been using either dead leaves or negatives, thus no transfer of color to
> the
> paper. Perhaps my next few will involve some flowers so that this can be
> examined.
>
> Cheers -
>
> george
>
>
>
> --- mmatusz@pdq.net wrote:
>
> >
> > All,
> > My initial experiments for the Lumin prints were on Forte Warm Tone
> (stil
> > good for B&W printing). This is the most amazing paper (I have not tried
> > Ilford WT yet) with exposed areas dark blue and shadows red to pink. I
> > place the plants under the glass, but not in a contact frame. Under
> > Houston sun, the plants release plenty of moisture and I can see the
> moist
> > areas of the paper take a different color during exposure. I exposed
> some
> > Forte polygrade, the result was much more of a brownish print. Most
> > dissappointing was the Agfa MCC Classic, dull, muddy print.
> >
> > Marek, Houston
> >
> > > George,
> > >
> > > all those test prints are on Ilford Warm Tone FB, straight out of the
> > > plastic bag
> > >
> > > FWIW, I'm waiting for about a week to fix them (top row), then see if
> > > there is any improvement in the rentention of the beautiful colors
> > >
> > > Darryl Baird
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: George L Smyth [mailto:glsmyth@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Sun 9/4/2005 10:12 PM
> > > To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> > > Subject: Re: Lumin prints tests
> > >
> > > I played around with the some today. The results I got were not as
> > > even as I
> > > would have thought. I tried Ilford MGIV, Ilford Warm Tone, and two
> > > sheets of
> > > Brovira. I placed decayed leaved on reach and placed within frames.
> > > I
> > > expected the different papers to give me varied results, but the two
> > > sheets of
> > > Brovira came out differently, which I thought was odd. I got some
> > > nice
> > > coloration with one of them (though not nearly to the extent as the
> > > images in
> > > the link provided, which makes me wonder if they were treated with
> > > S2/S30 -
> > > unfortunately, most of the color went away with fixing and toning) but
> > > nothing
> > > with the other. Exposure time was about six or seven hours, with some
> > > of the
> > > time not being in direct sunlight.
> > >
> > > Alas, like one other poster I, too, tossed several hundred sheets of
> > > expired
> > > paper about nine months ago in my attempt to reduce clutter. Perhaps
> > > eBay will
> > > be helpful inthat regard. I will try again tomorrow with some other
> > > ideas and
> > > perhaps my results will be a little more interesting.
> > >
> > > Cheers -
> > >
> > > george
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Received on Tue Sep 6 19:24:54 2005