Re: Lumin prints tests

George, et al,
My student is trying to put a call into Burchfield to ask the question: are
the book's images, in fact, SCANNED unfixed prints, that are later fixed, or
are they apres fixed? If, after all this, I find out that they are scanned
before fixing, I'm going to feel cheated! But maybe, after all, in this
digital age, this is a great idea??

I think the person who put moisture as a factor is probably right on. Maybe
even heat? In the equatorial sun?

Thanks all of you for posting so much. Today I gave the student a jar of
sodium thiosulfate and sodium carbonate so she can mix her own alkaline fix
and see if that alleviates the bleaching. It's a semester long project so
when she starts her discovery, I'll post. Thanks, Andy Duncan, for your
input, too.
Chris

>I should have tried some Forte during my tests this weekend. Forte accepts
> toner better than any paper I know of. I'll have to give this a shot
> soon.
>
> I found Ilford WT to give nice colors, but also lose them after fixing and
> toning. I am not sure if there is a way to keep them or not. Also, I
> have
> been using either dead leaves or negatives, thus no transfer of color to
> the
> paper. Perhaps my next few will involve some flowers so that this can be
> examined.
> Cheers -
> george

>> All,
>> My initial experiments for the Lumin prints were on Forte Warm Tone (stil
>> good for B&W printing). This is the most amazing paper (I have not tried
>> Ilford WT yet) with exposed areas dark blue and shadows red to pink. I
>> place the plants under the glass, but not in a contact frame. Under
>> Houston sun, the plants release plenty of moisture and I can see the
>> moist
>> areas of the paper take a different color during exposure. I exposed some
>> Forte polygrade, the result was much more of a brownish print. Most
>> dissappointing was the Agfa MCC Classic, dull, muddy print.
>> Marek, Houston
>>
>> > George,
>> > all those test prints are on Ilford Warm Tone FB, straight out of the
>> > plastic bag
>> > FWIW, I'm waiting for about a week to fix them (top row), then see if
>> > there is any improvement in the rentention of the beautiful colors
>> > Darryl Baird
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: George L Smyth [mailto:glsmyth@yahoo.com]
>> > Subject: Re: Lumin prints tests
>> > I played around with the some today. The results I got were not as
>> > even as I
>> > would have thought. I tried Ilford MGIV, Ilford Warm Tone, and two
>> > sheets of
>> > Brovira. I placed decayed leaved on reach and placed within frames.
>> > I
>> > expected the different papers to give me varied results, but the two
>> > sheets of
>> > Brovira came out differently, which I thought was odd. I got some
>> > nice
>> > coloration with one of them (though not nearly to the extent as the
>> > images in
>> > the link provided, which makes me wonder if they were treated with
>> > S2/S30 -
>> > unfortunately, most of the color went away with fixing and toning) but
>> > nothing
>> > with the other. Exposure time was about six or seven hours, with some
>> > of the
>> > time not being in direct sunlight.
>> > Alas, like one other poster I, too, tossed several hundred sheets of
>> > expired
>> > paper about nine months ago in my attempt to reduce clutter. Perhaps
>> > eBay will
>> > be helpful inthat regard. I will try again tomorrow with some other
>> > ideas and
>> > perhaps my results will be a little more interesting.
>> > Cheers -
>> > george
Received on Tue Sep 6 20:56:22 2005