RE: Lumin prints tests

I noticed those prints were extremely large -- 35 X 29 inches. I'm
thinking to myself that those are damned big prints and paper boxes to
be hauling around in the Amazon. Then again, everything in the Amazon
(like in Texas) is LARGE.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Darryl

-----Original Message-----
From: Christina Z. Anderson [mailto:zphoto@montana.net]
Sent: Tue 9/6/2005 10:55 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Lumin prints tests
 
George, et al,
My student is trying to put a call into Burchfield to ask the
question: are
the book's images, in fact, SCANNED unfixed prints, that are later
fixed, or
are they apres fixed? If, after all this, I find out that they are
scanned
before fixing, I'm going to feel cheated! But maybe, after all, in
this
digital age, this is a great idea??

I think the person who put moisture as a factor is probably right on.
Maybe
even heat? In the equatorial sun?

Thanks all of you for posting so much. Today I gave the student a jar
of
sodium thiosulfate and sodium carbonate so she can mix her own
alkaline fix
and see if that alleviates the bleaching. It's a semester long
project so
when she starts her discovery, I'll post. Thanks, Andy Duncan, for
your
input, too.
Chris

>I should have tried some Forte during my tests this weekend. Forte
accepts
> toner better than any paper I know of. I'll have to give this a
shot
> soon.
>
> I found Ilford WT to give nice colors, but also lose them after
fixing and
> toning. I am not sure if there is a way to keep them or not. Also,
I
> have
> been using either dead leaves or negatives, thus no transfer of
color to
> the
> paper. Perhaps my next few will involve some flowers so that this
can be
> examined.
> Cheers -
> george

>> All,
>> My initial experiments for the Lumin prints were on Forte Warm Tone
(stil
>> good for B&W printing). This is the most amazing paper (I have not
tried
>> Ilford WT yet) with exposed areas dark blue and shadows red to
pink. I
>> place the plants under the glass, but not in a contact frame. Under
>> Houston sun, the plants release plenty of moisture and I can see
the
>> moist
>> areas of the paper take a different color during exposure. I
exposed some
>> Forte polygrade, the result was much more of a brownish print. Most
>> dissappointing was the Agfa MCC Classic, dull, muddy print.
>> Marek, Houston
>>
>> > George,
>> > all those test prints are on Ilford Warm Tone FB, straight out of
the
>> > plastic bag
>> > FWIW, I'm waiting for about a week to fix them (top row), then
see if
>> > there is any improvement in the rentention of the beautiful
colors
>> > Darryl Baird
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: George L Smyth [mailto:glsmyth@yahoo.com]
>> > Subject: Re: Lumin prints tests
>> > I played around with the some today. The results I got were not
as
>> > even as I
>> > would have thought. I tried Ilford MGIV, Ilford Warm Tone, and
two
>> > sheets of
>> > Brovira. I placed decayed leaved on reach and placed within
frames.
>> > I
>> > expected the different papers to give me varied results, but the
two
>> > sheets of
>> > Brovira came out differently, which I thought was odd. I got
some
>> > nice
>> > coloration with one of them (though not nearly to the extent as
the
>> > images in
>> > the link provided, which makes me wonder if they were treated
with
>> > S2/S30 -
>> > unfortunately, most of the color went away with fixing and
toning) but
>> > nothing
>> > with the other. Exposure time was about six or seven hours, with
some
>> > of the
>> > time not being in direct sunlight.
>> > Alas, like one other poster I, too, tossed several hundred sheets
of
>> > expired
>> > paper about nine months ago in my attempt to reduce clutter.
Perhaps
>> > eBay will
>> > be helpful inthat regard. I will try again tomorrow with some
other
>> > ideas and
>> > perhaps my results will be a little more interesting.
>> > Cheers -
>> > george