Re: gum transfer

I did the same thing (answered Peter's post and found it went only to
Peter) Here's mine, again:

On Apr 14, 2006, at 5:10 AM, Peter Marshall wrote:

> Katherine,
>
> I think you are right about Marek's print and its significance.
>
>
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>
> Would it now be worth thinking about whether (and if so, how) the
> back-exposed image on film could be transferred onto paper?
>

It's always worth thinking about anything. My position on gum
transfer remains exactly the same as it was the other day: show me,
and I'll believe it. As I said then, my own experience is that once
hardened gum is firmly enough attached to the substrate to make it
through the developing process, it is very difficult to remove from
that substrate once dried. And if you try to remove it when wet, it
turns into moosh. So I can't quite picture a transferrable gum layer,
but I'm certainly willing to be persuaded by the evidence of its
having been done. I might even try it myself today, but I've really
kinda gotta do my taxes today.

  I did once, when I wanted a very ghostly image of a face, transfer
an image by simply turning a wet gum print face down onto another
piece of paper and rolling the back with a rolling pin, and that
worked fairly well for my purpose, but it was a very faint image; it
wasn't like transferring the whole gum layer.
Katharine

On Apr 14, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Marek Matusz wrote:

> I send it out and realised it went only to Peter, so I am
> reposting, hopefully to the list this time
>
>
> Peter, all
> Thanks to all that contrubuted to a stimulating discussion. I am
> not very interested in making gum prints on plastic, they just
> don't look very attractive to me. On the other hand they could
> perhaps be displayed nicely in a light box. My experimets were just
> to test some theories and to add to my understanding of alt
> processes and gum printing in particular. I have wanted to make
> gums on glass for a long time, but was not very successful with it
> so far. These last experiments pointed me into a new direction. I
> am partial to works on paper and would like to see if a transfer of
> image to a paper could be accomplished. I have started
> experimenting on that just as soon as I saw my first stable image
> on a transparency.
> Last year I bough Sandy's manual on carbon, gathered books and
> other info, bought some tissue from B&S and made a couple of carbon
> prints. I do have a basis understanding of the process and I am
> using that knowlege in my experimentation. I have made several
> attempts already, nothig to show just as yet.
> Marek, Houston
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Received on Sat Apr 15 20:02:02 2006