RE: palladium drydown and developer (albumen & collodion)

I intend to not correspond with him anymore. As long as he continues
his practice revealed / described by David, Witho, Don... that is. I
got really tired of him.

BTW, as another subect: I intend to buy the .PDF file he sells in
order to make an objective review of his method (and a very detailed
comparison using all three cyanotype formulas on at least three
different papers). Sincerely, I'm ready to congratulate / "chapeau"
him for his achievement *if the rex method works exactly as claimed*.

The problems are:

- There's no supporting evidence either in his website and in our
various exchanges (as Don points out, he never claimed any absolute
information whether the new method rivals - or even equals - the
former methods in dmax and contrast + the arguments he puts forward
against the new method are childish / exaggerated - seriously
handicapping his credibility), I definitely don't like to throw around
hard-earned money...

- How am I supposed to do a credible / extensive review / comparison
without revealing copyrighted information?

- If it comes out that the rex method is no good / it can't do things
what Terry claimed pretentiously, I presumably will have to deal with
his unfounded accusations / attacks against my knowledge, capability
ect. - Which I think should be out of question in the light of the
prints I've made / exhibited / selled / shared with you using both the
classic and new methods (+ my experience with other iron-based
processes). A quite troublesome / disturbing situation... Well, even
if it comes out I'm really incapable, this alone is enough to show
that the rex process is not so good... I mean if one person like me
who's very capable in making successful / beatiful prints using the
techniques enclosed in square brackets [cyanotype (classic / new /
full & split toned), vandyke, argyrotype, pop palladium] can't do
successful prints with the rex process, that is a clear evidence of
the fact that there's something wrong with the process.

About expelling Terry out of the list: I think it's a too hard measure
to take for the current situation (this is the sensible/logical part
of me writing, my emotional part is with Don). Anyway, just disregard
him when he starts writing nonsense and/or he plays his famous game...
Let him alone with his buffoonery when he does so.

Regards,
Loris.

----- Message from dstevenbryant@mindspring.com ---------
     Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:22:20 -0400
     From: Don Bryant <dstevenbryant@mindspring.com>
Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
  Subject: RE: palladium drydown and developer (albumen & collodion)
       To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca

> Peter,
>
> I've been on this list now for many years, and I can tell you it's more than
> an issue of merely pressing the delete key. His posts have a culmative
> effect on the list participation.
>
> You may wish to make obsequious posts for Terry, if so that's find. But
> please let us all have some intellectual honesty about Terry's love to play
> a cat and mouse routine with others that do bother to post.
>
> For example his recent exchange with Loris was simply an attempt to
> deprecate Loris' enthusiasm for the New Cyanotype process. I inferred this
> as a way to make the new T-REX cyanotype process to appear superior, when in
> reality all of the examples that Terry has placed on his web page look
> inferior (all very flat low contrast images.) Given that some people may
> prefer a low contrast image (including Terry) the process may be fine,
> however Terry has neatly avoided the fact the one could never get any other
> result. That is what Loris was reacting to (IMO) in a round about way as
> well as the Chinese fire drill that he pressed Loris to perform with his
> (Terry's) silly nonsensical responses.
>
> That's what pisses people off, Terry's silly disregard for others opinions
> and his failure to be responsive and live up to his so called reputation.
>
> I could go on with more examples but I've made my point.
>
> Don Bryant
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Marshall [mailto:petermarshall@cix.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:29 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: Re: palladium drydown and developer (albumen & collodion)
>
> I can't understand people who apparently use a computer that doesn't
> have a delete key and an e-mail program that doesn't have twit filtering
> facilities :-)
>
> I also find it hard to see that Terry has broken the 'rules' so that he
> might be banned.
>
> Easy to see his contribution to alt photo though, through organising
> various events, spreading the gospel and the discovery of new methods
> which I think will eventually become very important in alt printing.
>
> Don Bryant wrote:
>> Terry,
>>
>> Why do you manage to suggest that everyone else is wrong and you are
> right?
>> My question is meant rhetorically, you need not answer.
>>
>> I'm not going to waste any time and get to the point with my message
> today.
>>
>> It's time for you to go, that is, to be banned from this list.
>>
>> I vote we kick you and your drivel off the "island."
>>
>> I therefore request that Gordon place you in exile once again.
>>
>> I know others on this list, who feel the same as I, are not likely to make
> a
>> public disclosure of their disgust with your behavior. I would encourage
>> them to send a private e-mail to Gordon requesting your dismissal from the
>> list ASAP.
>>
>> BTW, as far as the B&S list goes, you've pulled the same crap over there
> for
>> years; frankly I don't think they are interested in your participation
> there
>> either.
>>
>> Don Bryant
Received on 07/23/06-12:07:06 AM Z