Re: Masa (was Papers for Argyrotype)

From: Katharine Thayer ^lt;kthayer@pacifier.com>
Date: 03/28/06-10:31:24 AM Z
Message-id: <39A12C48-A16E-4C23-AEBB-E37DE3D3A2FC@pacifier.com>

FWIW, my Masa has two sides: one side is sort of like waxed paper and
the other side is more like a typical Japanese paper, with a sort of
webby quality. I would think it would matter which side you printed
on, or is everyone assuming that the more papery side is the "right"
side?
Katharine

On Mar 28, 2006, at 8:09 AM, Michael Healy wrote:

> Loris, I haven't used it at these sizes. Only 4x5. That's finally
> about to change, because
> 've just gotten my UV box set up, AND a new printer. As soon as I
> get curves worked
> out, I'll be joining into the lemming's Fashion, as someone
> recently nose-thumbed it, of
> printing larger digital negatives. In terms of my experience with
> this smaller size of
> Masa, though, I would agree with Sam about wet strength.
>
> Incidentally, this paper was discussed here on this list in October
> of 2002. I think that
> must be what led me to investigate it. Carl Weese made this remark
> about it: "I don't find
> Masa difficult to handle wet, given care. I routinely make 12x20's
> on it, though at that
> size I do process by pouring the successive chemicals in and out of
> a single tray with
> the sheet of Masa 'trapped' to the bottom, rather than moving the
> sheet from tray to
> tray."
>
> When coating, just tape your sheets to a board using drafting tape.
> I was applying
> argyrotype with a glass rod, a real PITA. I'm going to try Sam's
> suggestion, and see
> what it does with cyanotype. I could swear I did try this a couple
> years ago, and that the
> emulsion just floated off in the rinse. But maybe I'm misremembering.
>
> Anyhow, I'll send you a couple jpg samples of argyrotypes I printed
> to this paper.
>
> Mike
>
> On 28 Mar 2006 at 18:36, Loris Medici wrote:
>
> Date sent: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:36:02 +0300
> From: Loris Medici <mail@loris.medici.name>
> Subject: RE: Papers for Argyrotype
> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> Send reply to: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>
>
>> Thanks Sam. I just ordered some (it's too cheap to refrain from
>> ordering it). It looks like it has a cold gray color. I hope it's not
>> as dark as shown in Dickblick's page. I plan to make prints sized
>> around 9"x12" to 11"x14". Do you think I'll need to use a plexi (or
>> such) support in trays?
>>
>> I guess this paper buckles / becomes wavy when coated; how do you
>> manage to coat evenly such thin papers?
>>
>> Let me admit that I felt strange while ordering a sulphite pulp paper
>> after all that stability discussion ;) It seems that I'm not so much
>> obsessed with archivality... (I'm saying this thinking sulphite
>> papers
>> are not as archival as pure cotton fibre papers - but I can be
>> completely wrong...)
>>
>> TIA,
>> Loris.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sam Wang [mailto:stwang@CLEMSON.EDU]
>> Sent: 28 Mart 2006 Sal 17:24
>> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
>> Subject: Re: Papers for Argyrotype
>>
>>
>>
>> Loris,
>>
>> Its wet strength is very good compared to other thin papers. There is
>> some translucency so you may need to back it with something for
>> presentation. It's also not bright white.
>>
>> I have not used it for Pt/pd or Ziatype but would be surprised if it
>> can't be used.
>>
>> Sam
>> On Mar 28, 2006, at 7:22 AM, Loris Medici wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok, Dickblick lists that paper for $1 per 21"x31" sheet. I may order
>> some. Do you know if it also works well with Pd/Pd (more
>> specifically,
>> Ziatype)? It's a pretty thin paper (77gsm). How's its wet strenght?
>> Any info? I guess it should be matted with a white backing since it's
>> so thin...
>>
>> TIA,
>> Loris
>>
>>
>>
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