Re: that NY Times article

This list is about photographic image, not political image. Please
take this discussion offlist.
Thank you,
-Mark

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Mark Malloy
Assistant Professor of Photography
Appalachian State University
Department of Technology
W. Kerr Scott Hall
397 Rivers St.
Boone, NC  28608
828-262-2969
malloyml@appstate.edu
On May 1, 2006, at 6:52 AM, Greg Schmitz wrote:
>
> I disagree, political discussion will not kill this list!  I noted
> before and will again that, using the letpress list as an example, it
> is possible to have a vigorous and vital listserv discussion with NO
> moderation what-so-ever; and some of the discussions on the letpress
> list make anything that has ever happened here look rather
> insignificant.  I think it is wrong that anybody has been "removed"
> for anything that has been said here.  Short of making physical
> threats I think we are all adult enough to deal with anything that
> might come our way here.
>
> I make (or don't make) many of my photographs BECAUSE of my political
> beliefs as have many other photographers whose work I admire.  My
> interest in alt-photo comes, at least in part, from my political
> beliefs, as I know is the case for at least a few others here.  My
> ability to make photographs has, in fact, been impacted by the rampant
> fascism (and I do not use that term lightly) currently in vogue here
> in the U.S. and I don't think it is prudent to be silent on matters
> that are of consequence to myself or my friends, my country or the
> world.  FWIW, "left" and "right" no longer have any meaning, at least
> to me; facts do.  Democrats and Republicans both drink from the same
> trough and are beholden to the same masters. This "alt-photo" storm
> will blow over and when the dust settles we will all get back to the
> business of making pictures in our own ways maybe even with a few new
> twists.  There are, I'm sure "sterile" venues that probably lack the
> intimacy of this list available if one only wants to write about
> paper, pigments and other issues related to the "technical" side of
> photography; or perhaps I missed something and alt-photo is only about
> affixing an image to a surface and has nothing to do with the image
> itself.
>
>
> Best, and good luck to us all -greg
>
> On Mon, 1 May 2006, Christina Z. Anderson wrote:
>
>> Amen, sista!
>> Chris
>>
>>> But what you seem to have failed to grasp is that the community   
>>> includes Dave Rose and Tom Ferguson and other people who don't  
>>> agree  with you about politics, and room and respect must be  
>>> offered and  restraint must be exercised so that people of all  
>>> political stances  can feel comfortable belonging here and  
>>> discussing photography.  I am  probably to the left of almost any  
>>> US citizen here, but I don't want  Tom Ferguson called a nazi any  
>>> more than I want people who agree with  me politically to be  
>>> called names. The point is that our political  opinions should  
>>> not be of interest here, one way or the other,  because this is  
>>> not a political list. The only thing of interest here  is  
>>> alternative photography. Those who choose to continue making  
>>> this  a political list, will kill this list.
>>> Katharine Thayer
>>
>>