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Re: Pd with dichromate contrast control



Hi Camden,

No, I could not tell you how much to add, but it would be a very small amount. If I were gong to test this I would try a 1% AD solution and see what would happen with 6-6-1 rate (6 drops FO + 6 drops PC + 1 drop of the 1% AD solution. But I could be way off on this. I know that adding one drop of a 5% solution of 2ml of combined FO+PC has a very significant impact on contrast.

Sandy





At 11:08 AM -0700 12/14/06, Camden Hardy wrote:
Sandy,

Thanks for the information; that was just what I was wondering about.
I've got a surplus of ammonium dichromate that I've been looking to use
up.

Just out of curiosity, do you have any estimates as to what ratio of 5%
dichromate I would have to add to my sensitizer (instead of the developer)
to get roughly a 2s mix?

Camden Hardy

camden[at]hardyphotography[dot]net
http://www.hardyphotography.net



On Thu, December 14, 2006 10:58 am, Sandy King wrote:
 Camden,

 Any of the dichromates can be used, and when used at the same
 percentage solution will give similar results. I don't recommend
 sodium dichromate for most applications because of its deliquescence,
 and its greater solubility offers no advantage in this application so
 far as I can see.

 Sandy



 At 10:50 AM -0700 12/14/06, Camden Hardy wrote:
Thanks for pointing that out, Mark; somehow I missed it entirely.  Too
obvious, I guess.  :)

However, the book only talks about sodium dichromate.  I've heard
potassium dichromate mentioned here before (was that you Sandy?).

Am I just imagining the use of ammonium dichromate?  I thought someone
mentioned it in the Ware/Malde POP discussion (the search function of the
recent archives is down at the moment, so I can't verify it).


Camden Hardy

camden[at]hardyphotography[dot]net
http://www.hardyphotography.net



On Thu, December 14, 2006 10:35 am, Ender100@aol.com wrote:
  Camden,

  Dick has such a conversion   chart in the second edition of his book.

  Best Wishes,
  Mark Nelson

  Precision Digital Negatives - The System
  PDNPrint Forum at Yahoo Groups
  www.MarkINelsonPhoto.com


  In a message dated 12/14/06 11:22:46 AM, camden@hardyphotography.net
  writes:


  I've been using the Dick Arentz method of pd contrast control with
  various
  concentrations of the Na2 solution.  I'd like to try printing pure
  palladium with ammonium dichromate for contrast control, as I've
 heard
  someone mention in the past.

  So my question is, how does one method translate to the other?  What
  kinds
  of quantities/dilutions of am. dichromate would I need to use to get
  comparable contrast results to Arentz's 1s/2s/3s solutions?  I
 realize
  this is an apples/oranges question before asking it, but I'm having
  trouble finding a better analogy.  :)


  Thanks,
  Camden Hardy