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Re: Pd with dichromate contrast control



Thanks, Sandy.  That's a starting point, at least.  I'll play around with
it and see what I can come up with.

Camden Hardy

camden[at]hardyphotography[dot]net
http://www.hardyphotography.net



On Thu, December 14, 2006 12:01 pm, Sandy King wrote:
> Hi Camden,
>
> No, I could not tell you how much to add, but it would be a very
> small amount. If I were gong to test this I would try a 1% AD
> solution and see what would happen with 6-6-1 rate (6 drops FO + 6
> drops PC + 1 drop of the 1% AD solution. But I could be way off on
> this. I know that adding one drop of a 5% solution of 2ml of combined
> FO+PC has a very significant impact on contrast.
>
> Sandy
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> At 11:08 AM -0700 12/14/06, Camden Hardy wrote:
>>Sandy,
>>
>>Thanks for the information; that was just what I was wondering about.
>>I've got a surplus of ammonium dichromate that I've been looking to use
>>up.
>>
>>Just out of curiosity, do you have any estimates as to what ratio of 5%
>>dichromate I would have to add to my sensitizer (instead of the
>> developer)
>>to get roughly a 2s mix?
>>
>>Camden Hardy
>>
>>camden[at]hardyphotography[dot]net
>>http://www.hardyphotography.net
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, December 14, 2006 10:58 am, Sandy King wrote:
>>>  Camden,
>>>
>>>  Any of the dichromates can be used, and when used at the same
>>>  percentage solution will give similar results. I don't recommend
>>>  sodium dichromate for most applications because of its deliquescence,
>>>  and its greater solubility offers no advantage in this application so
>>>  far as I can see.
>>>
>>>  Sandy
>>>
>>>
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>>>  At 10:50 AM -0700 12/14/06, Camden Hardy wrote:
>>>>Thanks for pointing that out, Mark; somehow I missed it entirely.  Too
>>>>obvious, I guess.  :)
>>>>
>>>>However, the book only talks about sodium dichromate.  I've heard
>>>>potassium dichromate mentioned here before (was that you Sandy?).
>>>>
>>>>Am I just imagining the use of ammonium dichromate?  I thought someone
>>>>mentioned it in the Ware/Malde POP discussion (the search function of
>>>> the
>>>>recent archives is down at the moment, so I can't verify it).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Camden Hardy
>>>>
>>>>camden[at]hardyphotography[dot]net
>>>>http://www.hardyphotography.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, December 14, 2006 10:35 am, Ender100@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>   Camden,
>>>>>
>>>>>   Dick has such a conversion   chart in the second edition of his
>>>>> book.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Best Wishes,
>>>>>   Mark Nelson
>>>>>
>>>>>   Precision Digital Negatives - The System
>>>>>   PDNPrint Forum at Yahoo Groups
>>>>>   www.MarkINelsonPhoto.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   In a message dated 12/14/06 11:22:46 AM,
>>>>> camden@hardyphotography.net
>>>>>   writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   I've been using the Dick Arentz method of pd contrast control with
>>>>>>   various
>>>>>>   concentrations of the Na2 solution.  I'd like to try printing pure
>>>>>>   palladium with ammonium dichromate for contrast control, as I've
>>>>>>  heard
>>>>>>   someone mention in the past.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   So my question is, how does one method translate to the other?
>>>>>> What
>>>>>>   kinds
>>>>>>   of quantities/dilutions of am. dichromate would I need to use to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>   comparable contrast results to Arentz's 1s/2s/3s solutions?  I
>>>>>>  realize
>>>>>>   this is an apples/oranges question before asking it, but I'm
>>>>>> having
>>>>>>   trouble finding a better analogy.  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Thanks,
>>>>>>   Camden Hardy
>>>>>>
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