RE: Freeform gum (Re: Gum printers in UK (Re: Scott McMahon gumworkshop, September
I see... Makes sense.
Nevertheless, I tend to include the method "separation by using the same
negative - with different colors - for multiple printings" into the
classification of "freeform" -> especially when one doesn't use stock
gum/pigment solutions (mix / add pigment by eye, instead). Additionally,
one can change the order of colors + the colors + printing times and/or
dichromate amounts to get very different results with the same
negative...
To me, only prints made [using strict separations (either duotone or RGB
/ CMYK) + using strict gum/pigment solutions + using automatic
development] don't quality as freeform -> these are simply reproducing
the printing press' actions by hand - with the freedom of choosing
colors... (Manipulating the image in development such as using a brush,
sponge, water jets / turkey baster ect... would allow the print to
qualify as "freefrom".)
Of couse, this is a highly subjective view open to discussion...
Regards,
Loris.
-----Original Message-----
From: Katharine Thayer [mailto:kthayer@pacifier.com]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:58 AM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: Freeform gum (Re: Gum printers in UK (Re: Scott McMahon gum
workshop, September
Actually, when I mused that maybe this isn't a freeform gum, maybe
it's done with "a separation negative of some sort," I wasn't
thinking just of tricolor separations but of anything that separated
the tones into a separate negative, in addition to a possible color
separation. But certainly c would work too. The question was, if
it's a freeform gum, how was the color separated? None of the
answers below assumes a freeform gum, but all are certainly possible
ways of achieving it with "a separation negative of some sort;"
even "c" uses the negative to separate the colors rather than
separating the colors in application or development. (When
tentatively defining freeform gum, I was only thinking of separating
the colors by selective application; I hadn't thought of separating
the colors in development as Damiano did; that's very well done).
kt
On Aug 19, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Loris Medici wrote:
> Not that I think I have a better idea but will list some solutions
> that
> look probable to me:
>
> a) Making duotone (or tritone, or quadtone) separations. My color
> theory
> / duotone knowledge is limited, so I can't say if one could design
> duotones profiles giving results similar to the image in question...
>
> b) As Katharine says -> making tri-color separations... (Coloring done
> in image editing program...)
>
> c) Using a fairly high contrast negative and printing the highlights /
> midtones and shadows in different colors. Shadows could have been
> printed using a fairly opaque color or a color that gives green when
> printed over earth colors - if possible... (Again, I don't know if
> there
> are such opaque greens - or if there's a color which will give green
> when printed over earth colors... A transparent blue?)
>
> I would first try (c) then (b) and (a)...
>
> Regards,
> Loris.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Katharine Thayer [mailto:kthayer@pacifier.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:40 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: Freeform gum (Re: Gum printers in UK (Re: Scott McMahon gum
> workshop, September
>
> ..
>
> Hence David's question about how one would get such a nice separation
> of the green, in the absence of the use of color separations. One
> possibility is that maybe that image isn't a freeform gum but is done
> with a separation negative of some sort. Otherwise, I don't know
> how it could be done.
>
> Hope that's helpful, and as I said, I hope if someone has a better
> idea, they'll say so. Katharine
>
>
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