Re: 3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers

[Bob <bb333@earthlink.net>]

Why not try Tri-X or T-Max 400, expose at 2400 or 3200 and develop in  
Accufine?
Accufine cuts, but it makes a beautiful curve.....

Bob


On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:12 PM, Liam Lawless wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Why not try it on rollfilm?  Expose frames @ 800, 1600, 3200, 6400,  
> develop
> for whatever (very long!) time you choose, and see what you get.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Liam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOB KISS [mailto:bobkiss@caribsurf.com]
> Sent: 19 September 2007 02:17
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: RE: 3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers
>
> DEAR LIAM,
> 	Interesting approach.  I will try it with 8X10 T-Max 400 which I
> have.
> 	THANKS!
> 		CHEERS!
> 			BOB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liam Lawless [mailto:lawless@bulldoghome.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:38 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: RE: 3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers
>
> Bob,
>
> I develop film for a guy who severely underexposes 400 ASA films -  
> says he
> exposes at 1600, but he doesn't use a light meter and I reckon it's  
> more
> like 3200 or 6400.  I get pretty good results giving them semi-stand
> development in deep tanks - 32 mins. in stock D-76 at 21 deg. C,  
> with 30
> secs. vigorous agitation every 10 minutes (which allows three short  
> coffee
> breaks).  It helps if the images are not too contrasty and shadow  
> detail is
> not too important (though I get more than I originally expected),  
> but this
> extreme treatment does produce nice, punchy midtones.  A bit  
> grainy, as
> you'd expect (well, actually quite a lot grainy), but if you're  
> prepared to
> sacrifice 2 or 3 sheets on tests I think you might find something  
> you like.
> This chap uses mainly T-Max, Delta and Neopan, btw, and I give them  
> all the
> same time.
>
>
> Liam
>
> P.S.  He shoots large amounts of film all over the world, but I've  
> never
> seen any with X-ray damage.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOB KISS [mailto:bobkiss@caribsurf.com]
> Sent: 18 September 2007 21:46
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: RE: 3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers
>
> DEAR DAN,
> 	Thanks for the reply.  I never thought about leaky film holders.
> 3200 is three stops faster than 400.  It would make sense to spend  
> a few
> sheets testing holders.  As you say, we photographers should be  
> able to deal
> with that.  Can you imagine what you could do with those three  
> extra stops
> in 8X10 or even 5X7?  The really large format folks (11X14 and up)  
> would
> love it even more.
> 	Are you on the Large Format Forum?  If so, might you post the
> question to them?  They would be a natural market for 8X10 or  
> larger 3200
> speed film.  As Richard Knoppow pointed out, Ilford won't stock and  
> sell it
> if there isn't any market.
> 		CHEERS!
> 			BPB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Burkholder [mailto:fdanb@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:34 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: Re: 3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers
>
> Hey Bob,
>
> Good question. Years ago I asked a Kodak rep about that (and you know
> their reputation for farsightedness) and, if memory serves, he said
> something about fog concerns with leaky film holders and such. Seems
> like that shouldn't be their concern as much as the photographer's.
>
> I never shot the Delta 3200 but I loved the tonal characteristics of
> Kodak's TMZ film at EI 800. Wonderful toe and shoulder behavior.
>
> Dan
>
> BOB KISS wrote on 9/14/07, 2:43 PM:
>
> > DEAR LIST,
> >     I have always wondered why neither Kodak nor Ilford have sold  
> > their
> > 3200 speed films as sheet films.  Where else would one really LOVE  
> > the
> > speed
> > and not care as much about the grain?  Don't you find that curious?
> >     I lust after Delta 3200 in 8X10.  Can you imagine that speed?   
> > Even
> > after filter factors and/or bellow factors you could use a high F#  
> > and
> > not
> > have to expose for seconds!
> >     Anyone know anyone at those places?  Maybe we could induce  
> > them to
> > make some in those sizes?
> >         CHEERS!
> >             BOB
> >
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