Re: Article Posted (RE: Sury & Misonne)
Thanks, I guess that's what happened. The process sounds
tremendously complicated.... thanks so much for your efforts in
acquiring and posting.
kt
On Jan 7, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Dave S wrote:
Katharine,
Please try again. After I uploaded it the first time, I checked it out
myself and found that the text was a little too small; so I deleted
the
original file and uploaded another one with a bigger font size. You
might
have tried right after I deleted the file.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Katharine Thayer [mailto:kthayer@pacifier.com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:29 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: Article Posted (RE: Sury & Misonne)
Dave, I get an aol error that says "we can't find that page."
On Jan 7, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Dave S wrote:
I have received the copy of the article. Thanks, Judy.
In general the OCR software does a good job. It has some
problems with
numbers, so I manually edited some of them. Other than
that, I haven't
done much editing. Occassionally some character are
mis-recognized but
you can probably guess what the originals are. I haven't
read through
the article (the xerox or the converted file) myself. If
you find some
words that are not clear, please let me know, and I will check the
xerox copy for you.
I haven't done much formatting either. I am putting this up
quickly so
that those who are interested can check quickly. Eventually
I might go
back and do some formatting so that it would look nicer.
The link is
http://members.aol.com/fotodave/Articles/PhotographicReview.html
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Seigel [mailto:jseigel@panix.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:49 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: Sury & Misonne
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008, henk thijs wrote:
It is written 'Leonard Misonne', born in Charleroi -
Belgien, and i
saw an exhibition of his work some time ago in the photomuseum of
Charleroi, and the pictures i saw were a.o. (brom)oil
prints and gum,
very pictorialistic and depressing images of daily life
and factories
next to romantic landscapes with sheeps et al.
I took a longer look at the American Photography Annual (No.
18, 1924) which I'd previously riffed through, and note a
couple of
points:
page 308,"THE PHOTOGRAPHIC REVIEW," by E. J. Wall, begins:
The "COLOR PROCESS": E.Rombaut gives a brief description of the
working of this new Process, which has been introduced by
E. Sury, of
Antwerp. It recalls the old powder process and it is distinctly
different.
The paper is sent out unsensitized, and it is advised to
turn up the
edges of the sheet.... and pinch the corners so as to form a
temporary tray...."
There follow formulas (Am bi & methyl alcohol), & instructions for
coating, draining, drying & printing...
using a screen of black lines between negative &
(insolation?-- which is -- the coating?). Some 2 pages of
instructions in small print which follow are tempting to try
-- (tho not to copy out).
Is this the "patented" method do you suppose, or something
else? The
powder brushed on adheres in the unhardened cracks where
the lines in
the screen "or "reseau" lay, hence color (or colors) may
be added by
brushing in.
After this topic a section on Resinopigmentype lays out the Namias
process, using a "powder" made by "fusing resin, a fatty
body and the
desired pigment, then grinding when cold."
There are plenty of fatty bodies & grinding around here, but I'm
still doubtful I could follow those instructions... What
for instance
is the "resin"?
Then the name is in fact Leonard Misonne, thanks Henk, tho
no further
word on his nationality.
Other info gleaned from turning all 770-odd pages is that
females of
the day tended to get tangled up naked in window drapes or table
cloths that persisted in flying open when the shutter snapped (an
affliction to which men were apparently
immune) and that F. Drtikol showed a couple of comically
arch figure
studies that look like I Love Lucy drunk as a skunk, while the
penchant for titling photographs of African-Americans of
any age and
mien with irrelevant expressions in crude dialect was in
full fettle.
On page 493 we see a pleasant-looking middle aged man with pipe,
beard and hat, comfortably seated with hands crossed, over
the title:
"Befo' De War." (No better or worse than dozens, perhaps
hundreds of
the genre...
There oughta be a book. Proposed title: "Praise de lawd"
-- after
the photo titled thusly, also for no discernible reason.)
PS. If someone has a... I forget what you call them, a
program that
scans and converts to text-- and others are interested I can copy
these pages on printing the above-mentioned Sury process & mail to
him or her tp put on a website....( unless that's already
been done?)
Judy
happy 2008 ,
Cheers,
Henk
likewise,
Judy
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