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Re: Article Posted (RE: Sury & Misonne)

Thanks, I guess that's what happened. The process sounds tremendously complicated.... thanks so much for your efforts in acquiring and posting.

On Jan 7, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Dave S wrote:


Please try again. After I uploaded it the first time, I checked it out
myself and found that the text was a little too small; so I deleted the
original file and uploaded another one with a bigger font size. You might
have tried right after I deleted the file.


-----Original Message-----
From: Katharine Thayer [mailto:kthayer@pacifier.com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:29 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: Article Posted (RE: Sury & Misonne)

Dave, I get an aol error that says "we can't find that page."

On Jan 7, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Dave S wrote:

I have received the copy of the article. Thanks, Judy.

In general the OCR software does a good job. It has some

problems with

numbers, so I manually edited some of them. Other than

that, I haven't

done much editing. Occassionally some character are

mis-recognized but

you can probably guess what the originals are. I haven't

read through

the article (the xerox or the converted file) myself. If

you find some

words that are not clear, please let me know, and I will check the
xerox copy for you.

I haven't done much formatting either. I am putting this up

quickly so

that those who are interested can check quickly. Eventually

I might go

back and do some formatting so that it would look nicer.

The link is


-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Seigel [mailto:jseigel@panix.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:49 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: Sury & Misonne

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008, henk thijs wrote:

It is written 'Leonard Misonne', born in Charleroi -

Belgien, and i

saw an exhibition of his work some time ago in the photomuseum of
Charleroi, and the pictures i saw were a.o. (brom)oil

prints and gum,

very  pictorialistic and depressing images of daily life

and factories

next to romantic landscapes with sheeps et al.

I took a longer look at the American Photography Annual (No.
18, 1924) which I'd previously riffed through, and note a

couple of


page 308,"THE PHOTOGRAPHIC REVIEW," by E. J. Wall, begins:

The "COLOR PROCESS":  E.Rombaut gives a brief description of the
working of this new Process, which has been introduced by

E. Sury, of

Antwerp. It recalls the old powder process and it is distinctly
The paper is sent out unsensitized, and it is advised to

turn up the

edges of the sheet.... and pinch the corners so as to form a
temporary tray...."

There follow formulas (Am bi & methyl alcohol), & instructions for
coating, draining, drying & printing...
using a screen of black lines between negative &
(insolation?-- which is -- the coating?). Some 2 pages of
instructions in small print which follow are tempting to try
-- (tho not to copy out).

Is this the "patented" method do you suppose, or something

else? The

powder brushed on adheres in the unhardened cracks where

the lines in

the screen "or "reseau" lay, hence color (or colors) may

be added by

brushing in.

After this topic a section on Resinopigmentype lays out the Namias
process, using a "powder" made by "fusing resin, a fatty

body and the

desired pigment, then grinding when cold."
There are plenty of fatty bodies & grinding  around here, but I'm
still doubtful I could follow those instructions... What

for instance

is the "resin"?

Then the name is in fact Leonard Misonne, thanks Henk, tho

no further

word on his nationality.

Other info gleaned from turning all 770-odd pages is that

females of

the day tended to get tangled up naked in window drapes or table
cloths that persisted in flying open when the shutter snapped (an
affliction to which men were apparently
immune) and that F. Drtikol showed a couple of comically

arch figure

studies that look like I Love Lucy drunk as a skunk, while the
penchant for titling photographs of African-Americans of

any age and

mien with irrelevant expressions in crude dialect was in

full fettle.

On page 493 we see a pleasant-looking middle aged man with pipe,
beard and hat, comfortably seated with hands crossed, over

the title:

"Befo' De War."  (No better or worse than dozens, perhaps

hundreds of

the genre...
There oughta be a book.  Proposed title:  "Praise de lawd"

-- after
the photo titled thusly, also for no discernible reason.)

PS. If someone has a...  I forget what you call them, a

program that

scans and converts to text-- and others are interested I can copy
these pages on printing the above-mentioned Sury process & mail to
him or her tp put on a website....( unless that's already

been done?)


happy 2008 ,