Re: Tricolor gum, order of layers
Loris, how long are your exposure with that un-oiled 18 lb bond? 2008/10/3 Keith Gerling <keith.gerling@gmail.com>: > Freedom Paper also sells an inkjet vellum that makes a pretty good > negative. I don't use it much because it doesn't seem to absorb as > much black as the cheaper bond, but it needs no oiling (exposure times > for me are the same as for the oiled 18 pound - which are almost > exactly half as long as un-oiled) and there is little or no "paper > grain" with the vellum. > > http://www.freedompaper.com/s.nl/it.I/id.49/.f?sc=15&category=-115 > > 2008/10/3 <john@johnbrewerphotography.com>: >> Thanks Loris >> >> J >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Loris Medici [mailto:mail@loris.medici.name] >> Sent: 03 October 2008 09:58 >> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca >> Subject: RE: Tricolor gum, order of layers >> >> HP sells a paper called translucent inkjet bond. Mine is from >> freedompaper.com. It's a 18lb smooth paper which looks like a bolder >> drafting/tracing paper (it has some size I presume since it's marketed as >> inkjet media). >> >> Hope this helps, >> Loris. >> >> >> 3 Ekim 2008, Cuma, 11:05 am tarihinde, john@johnbrewerphotography.com >> yazmış: >>> Hi Loris >>> >>> Could you describe the paper you use for negatives a little more? You >>> say it is quite translucent, Is it like draughting film (paper) or >>> velum ? Who is the manufacturer? Pictorico here in the UK is expensive >>> too. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> John. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Loris Medici [mailto:mail@loris.medici.name] >>> Sent: 02 October 2008 23:26 >>> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca >>> Subject: Re: Tricolor gum, order of layers >>> >>> Yes, composite grayscale is exactly grayscale including color inks. >>> With my printer that means: back + light gray + some (very little I >>> presume) color ink... >>> >>> Probably oiling would mask some of the paper texture... I noticed that >>> the paper you mention is a special photo paper. If I'm not mistaking, >>> the printers lay much more ink and use a much denser dithering >>> algorithm with those "photo" papers. Instead, I use a special type of >>> plain paper (which is quite translucent - and less textured / but >>> there's still some texture >>> - compared to ordinary plain paper) and I print using the plain paper >>> profile provided in the printer driver (which lays much less ink and >>> uses a more visible / relaxed dithering pattern), and I think that's >>> the main difference leading to my pointillistic result which you >>> haven't observed. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Loris. >>> >>> >>> 1 Ekim 2008, Çarşamba, 12:13 am tarihinde, Katharine Thayer yazmış: >>>> Hi Loris, >>>> Aaah, I get it now. You erased and reprinted the cyan layer. >>>> Thanks, and sorry for being so dense. >>>> >>>> Hmm, that's very interesting about the pointillism; by "composite >>>> grayscale" you mean greyscale printed with color inks, I assume. >>>> That's how I've always printed my paper negatives, and I haven't ever >>>> got that effect, except for the one time I mentioned when I used >>>> pencil to make changes on the paper negative. I wonder what the >>>> difference is, whether it's oiled or not, or maybe the kind of paper? >>>> The paper that's always worked best for me has been Epson Photo >>>> Quality Inkjet Paper, (now called Presentation Paper Matte -- same >>>> stock number, different name), oiled. I used to use mineral oil, til >>>> Keith suggested baby oil and I switched over. Well, it doesn't >>>> matter, I'm just curious ; I like to try to understand things that >>>> aren't immediately obvious to me. >>>> >>>> You're most welcome, glad to offer what help I can, although >>>> ultimately it's gum that teaches its requirements and principles to >>>> those who are willing to learn from it; all I can do is point in a >>>> general direction. >>>> Katharine >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1703 - Release Date: >>> 10/2/2008 >>> 7:46 AM >>> >>> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1703 - Release Date: 10/2/2008 >> 9:35 PM >> >> >
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